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Between Two Pumps is where real car conversations happen—hosted by Terry Shea, Mike Musto, and Terry McGean. The show combines decades of market knowledge with candid debate and real marketplace intelligence. From muscle cars and European classics to modern collectibles and emerging trends, nothing is off limits. In an environment where hype can distort perception overnight, Between Two Pumps cuts through the noise—positioning Hemmings as both a historian and a modern-day navigator of the collector-car landscape. Each episode blends firsthand experience, honest opinions, and deep industry insight to help enthusiasts understand what truly matters. What's worth buying? What's overrated? What will stand the test of time? Terry, Mike, and Terry break it down—no scripts, no fluff.
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In Episode 18 of Between Two Pumps, Mike Musto, Terry Shea, and Terry McGean dive deep into the wonderfully weird side of the collector car hobby, each bringing five of the most unusual, obscure, and unexpected vehicles they could find on Hemmings. From Nissan Figaros, Tatra Type 77s, and Euro-spec BMWs to military Jeep trucks, French grand tourers, Model T snowmobile conversions, and even Italian vineyard utility vehicles, the guys celebrate the incredible variety that makes the collector car hobby so fascinating. Along the way, they debate forgotten automotive engineering, gray-market gems, military oddities, French styling, rare imports, and why discovering cars you've never even heard of is one of the greatest joys of being a car enthusiast. If you could own one truly unusual collector car, what would it be? Let us know in the comments.
In Episode 17 of Between Two Pumps, Mike Musto, Terry McGean, and Terry Shea swap stories about the forever cars in their garages and why, despite decades of new models, more horsepower, and better technology, nothing has been able to replace them. From Terry's long-loved Focus RS and BMW M Coupe to Terry's Fox-body Mustang and Mike's beloved '68 Charger, the guys explore what transforms a car from a possession into part of your identity. Along the way, they debate modern performance cars versus analog icons, the thrill of configuring your dream car, whether today's vehicles still create lifelong emotional connections, and why sometimes the smartest automotive decision is simply keeping the keys to the one that still makes you look back every time you park it.
In Episode 16 of Between Two Pumps, Mike Musto, Terry Shea, and Terry McGean resurrect the cars and nameplates they think deserve another shot. Terry Shea makes the case for a modern Ford Crown Victoria: big, rear-wheel drive, V8-powered, and finally given the enthusiast treatment Ford never quite delivered. Mike dreams up a reborn second-generation Trans Am with the elegance of an Aston Martin, the attitude of American muscle, and, yes, a screaming chicken. And Terry McGean argues for the return of the great American rear-wheel-drive performance sedan, looking back at cars like the Chevrolet SS, Pontiac G8, and the Impala SS. Along the way, the guys debate what makes retro design work, why some modern interpretations completely miss the mark, whether four-door muscle cars have finally earned their place, and the bigger question: If automakers actually built the cars enthusiasts say they want, would anyone buy them? It's part dream garage, part automotive product-planning meeting, and probably a good reminder of why none of these guys work for an OEM.
In Episode 15 of Between Two Pumps, Mike Musto, Terry Shea, and Terry McGean get personal as they confess the cars they never should have sold, the purchases they probably should regret (but don't), and the smartest automotive decisions they've ever made. From a fuselage-era Chrysler Newport and a rare GMC Sprint SP to an E30 M3, Porsche 968, Volkswagen GTIs, and a 928 that exceeded every expectation, the guys revisit the cars that shaped their lives—along with the stories, missed opportunities, and hard-earned lessons that came with them. Whether you've sold your dream car, bought a questionable project, or still think about the one that got away, this episode is a reminder that the best car stories are often about the decisions we wish we could undo.
In Episode 14 of Between Two Pumps, the guys put a budget on their imagination and build their ultimate dream-spec project cars using one simple rule: the car has to be available right now on the Hemmings Marketplace. Mike dreams up the ultimate Fox-platform sleeper—a Coyote-swapped 1988 Ford Thunderbird Turbo Coupe with modern suspension, big brakes, and just enough subtle modifications to surprise everyone at a stoplight. Terry McGean goes lightweight and high-revving with a rally-inspired second-generation Toyota Celica powered by a Toyota 2ZZ engine, blending vintage style with modern performance. And Terry Shea leans into classic American practicality with a 1957 Chevrolet wagon body-swapped onto a 9C1 Caprice chassis for the ultimate road-trip machine. Along the way, the conversation dives into engine swaps, junkyard builds, body swaps, factory parts-bin engineering, Fox-body Fords, Toyota performance engines, and the eternal question every car enthusiast asks: If you had $50,000 and one dream build, what would you create? Because sometimes the best project car isn't the one in your garage—it's the one you've been building in your head for years.
In Episode 13 of Between Two Pumps, the guys tackle a question that has shaped the collector car market for decades: What actually makes a car rare? From BMW M5s and M3 Lightweights to Buick GNXs, Bullitt Mustangs, Dodge Demons, Porsche special editions, and the infamous 1978 Corvette Pace Car, the conversation explores how manufacturers create exclusivity—and whether collectors should believe the hype. Along the way, Mike Musto, Terry Shea, and Terry McGean debate limited-production runs, homologation specials, canceled promotions, performance badges, and the difference between genuinely rare cars and vehicles that were simply marketed as such. They also dive into modern performance brands like BMW M, AMG, Audi RS, and Porsche GT models, asking whether today's endless stream of special editions has diluted what once made these cars truly special. Because when every car is a special edition, it's fair to ask if any of them still are.
In Episode 12 of Between Two Pumps, the guys tackle a question that's becoming harder to answer every year: Do performance badges still mean what they used to? From BMW M and M Sport to Mercedes-AMG, Audi S and RS models, Volvo R-Designs, and Volkswagen R-Lines, the conversation explores how automakers have expanded their performance brands beyond the hardcore enthusiast cars that built their reputations. Along the way, Mike Musto, Terry Shea, and Terry McGean debate whether these modern "sport" packages offer genuine performance improvements or simply deliver the look and image of the real thing. The episode also dives into the evolution of BMW's M division, the rise of AMG sub-models, classic muscle car parallels, halo-car marketing, and whether enthusiasts should embrace these watered-down performance variants or reject them altogether. Because sometimes the biggest question isn't how fast a car is—it's whether the badge on the trunk still means what you think it does.
In Episode 11 of Between Two Pumps, the guys tackle a question every enthusiast seems to be asking: Can you still buy a truly analog driver's car in the modern era? From BMW M Coupes and Porsche 996s to Subaru BRZs, Volkswagen GTIs, Mitsubishi Evos, Mustangs, Lotuses, and Civic Type Rs, the conversation explores the cars that continue to deliver genuine driver engagement in an increasingly digital world. Along the way, they debate where the line exists between "analog" and simply "engaging," and whether modern performance cars have become too heavy, too complicated, and too disconnected from the driving experience enthusiasts crave. The episode also dives into affordable modern classics, overlooked performance bargains, manual transmissions, and the cars they'd buy today before values climb even higher. Because sometimes the best driver's car isn't the fastest one—it's the one that makes you look for the long way home.
Between Two Pumps is where real car conversations happen—hosted by Terry Shea, Mike Musto, and Terry McGean. The show combines decades of market knowledge with candid debate and real marketplace intelligence. From muscle cars and European classics to modern collectibles and emerging trends, nothing is off limits. In an environment where hype can distort perception overnight, Between Two Pumps cuts through the noise—positioning Hemmings as both a historian and a modern-day navigator of the collector-car landscape. Each episode blends firsthand experience, honest opinions, and deep industry insight to help enthusiasts understand what truly matters. What's worth buying? What's overrated? What will stand the test of time? Terry, Mike, and Terry break it down—no scripts, no fluff.
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