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You may know them from Grey Sloan Memorial… but did you know Jessica Capshaw and Camilla Luddington are actually BFFs in real life?! As all besties do, they navigate the highs and lows of life together. When one of them sends out the distress signal, the other one always answers the call. Big or small, they are there for each other. And, what does that look like? A thousand pep talks. A million “I’ve got you’s.” Some urgent “I’m coming overs”… Laughing through the tears and problem solving over glasses of rose… okay, sometimes it takes tequila! Because, let’s face it, life can get even crazier than a season finale of Grey’s Anatomy! Now Jessica and Camilla are opening up the friendship circle to YOU! Someone’s cheating? They got you on that. In-laws are in-lawing? Let’s get into it. Toxic friendships? Air it out. They’re on your side to help you with your concerns, talk about theirs and every once in a while bring on an awesome guest to get their take on the things that you bring them.
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- 6 days ago30 min
We used to Pre-Game. Now We Play Mahjong…
54% of Americans drank less alcohol in 2025 — the steepest drop ever recorded — and Jess and Camilla have thoughts. They get into the “sober curious” movement, whether GLP-1s are quietly killing happy hour, and why Gen Z skipped the drinking-culture memo entirely. Camilla spills on her 30 days alcohol-free (spoiler: her jawline has opinions), Jess shares that her Dry January pushed it’s way past the first month of the year, and then it somehow it all spirals into a full-blown mahjong obsession. Hangxiety, red carpet horror stories, and a woman named Beth who may be quietly teaching all of Los Angeles to play — this one has range. Please note that this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode. Produced by Dear Media. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
- 1 weeks ago35 min
The Very First MESSY MAILBAG!
The Messy Mailbag is officially OPEN! Camilla and Jessica answer your questions about stories, projects, opinions, and life updates we’ve shared on past episodes. You asked for follow-ups—they've got 'em.) Please note that this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode. Produced by Dear Media. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
- 2 weeks ago38 min
The Premium Personality Package!
Not everyone gets the Premium Personality Package. Some people get the polished, socially acceptable version. Others get unlimited access: the tangents, the voice notes, the weird theories, and the emotional downloads. This week, Camilla and Jess are talking about who gets the full subscription, how they earned it, and why access to your personality might be your most valuable resource. Please note that this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode. Produced by Dear Media. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
- 3 weeks ago39 min
Fortune Favors the Bold
Camilla tries a DIY bang trim after watching ONE TikTok. It goes about as well as you’d expect. Jessica, meanwhile, has a question that’s been top of mind: what’s the actual difference between being nice and being kind? Turns out it’s not just the word choice — it’s everything. One is armor. The other takes real courage. They get into spilled catastrophes, the invisible “good girl” rulebook Hollywood handed them decades ago, and whether any of this theory survives being asked if you’ll switch a window seat for a middle seat. Please note that this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode. Produced by Dear Media. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
- Jun 25, 202646 min
A New York Minute
A trip to New York, the madness of Upfronts week, and one very unfortunate memory from the Grey’s Anatomy days all collide in this episode. Jessica and Camilla swap stories from behind the scenes, including emergency fashion fixes, borrowed underwear, and a moment from more than ten years ago that somehow never made it out of the vault… until now. Plus, Jessica shares an unexpected detail from filming her 9-1-1 Nashville finale fight scene with LeAnn Rimes and why surviving Hollywood sometimes requires preparation, chaos, and a sense of humor. As always, the girls are telling on themselves, laughing through the wild rides, and proving that some stories are just too good to keep to yourselves. Please note that this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode. Produced by Dear Media. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
- Jun 18, 202639 min
New Dawn New Day
New name, new era, same Jess & Camilla. They are officially back! In this premiere episode, they’re unpacking the brand-new look, the chaotic photoshoot that nearly triggered a full-blown panic attack, and life updates they’ve been hoarding while they were away. Trust us when we say that you have a lot to catch up on. Please note that this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode. Produced by Dear Media. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
- Jun 17, 20261 min
We Ride at Dawn (ish) | Coming June 18!
Hosted by actors Jessica Capshaw and Camilla Luddington, We Ride at Dawn (ish) is your weekly dose of unfiltered conversation, real-life chaos and a peek behind the scenes. At its heart, We Ride at Dawn (ish) is a podcast about friendship, resilience and showing up- even when the ride gets messy. It’s about weathering storms, staying in the saddle and knowing you’ve got someone beside you when the sun comes up. Each episode dives into the glamorous and not-so-glamorous life as an actor, motherhood, friendship, wellness and everything in between. It’s part therapy session, part girl’s night, part “how did we get here?”- all with two best friends who met on set and never stopped talking. So join them as they RIDE AT DAWN (ish)...because who can do anything before coffee?! Produced by Dear Media. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
- Nov 11, 202545 min
Call It with Selling Sunset’s Sandra Vergara
Is ‘Selling Sunset’ selling more lies than listings? Sofia Vergara’s sister Sandra joins Jess and Camilla to spill what’s real and what’s reality-TV fiction. She dishes on the “crafted” chaos, “directed” drama, and her so-called friendship with Chrishell. Plus, Sandra explains the truth behind the Friendsgiving blow-up, why Nicole was fired and whether she’ll be back on Sunset Boulevard next season.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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You may know them from Grey Sloan Memorial… but did you know Jessica Capshaw and Camilla Luddington are actually BFFs in real life?! As all besties do, they navigate the highs and lows of life together. When one of them sends out the distress signal, the other one always answers the call. Big or small, they are there for each other. And, what does that look like? A thousand pep talks. A million “I’ve got you’s.” Some urgent “I’m coming overs”… Laughing through the tears and problem solving over glasses of rose… okay, sometimes it takes tequila! Because, let’s face it, life can get even crazier than a season finale of Grey’s Anatomy! Now Jessica and Camilla are opening up the friendship circle to YOU! Someone’s cheating? They got you on that. In-laws are in-lawing? Let’s get into it. Toxic friendships? Air it out. They’re on your side to help you with your concerns, talk about theirs and every once in a while bring on an awesome guest to get their take on the things that you bring them.
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