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CEOs & ABCs is the podcast for high performers who lead at work and show up at home.Hosted by Kevin Rice, this show features candid conversations with executives, founders, and rising leaders about how they’ve advanced their careers while staying present for the moments that matter most... raising kids, building strong partnerships, and prioritizing their health.Each episode dives into executive career advice, leadership development, work-life balance, and the realities of parenting while managing demanding professional lives. Whether you’re navigating promotions, team growth, toddler tantrums, or time management, you’ll find insights and inspiration to lead with intention - both at work and at home.️ New episodes weekly Topics: Career growth, executive mindset, parenting, burnout prevention, productivity, and more For working parents, driven professionals, and leaders building meaningful livesSubscribe now and join the journey from "boardrooms to bedtime stories."
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In this episode of CEOs & ABCs, Kevin sits down with Matt Eisenacher, Chief Brand Officer at First Watch, to explore what it actually takes to become a leader of leaders and why the hardest part isn't learning new skills, it's letting go of old ones. Matt opens with a story most high-performers will recognise: the moment you realise your presence in the room is the problem. From removing himself from creative meetings to learning when not to give the answer, Matt shares how the leap from operator to executive demands a fundamentally different relationship with control, credit, and trust. He explains why the strongest vision is the one that makes your team feel empowered enough to fail and why stepping back is sometimes the most powerful leadership move you can make. But this conversation goes deeper than the boardroom. Matt and Kevin trace the same instinct across parenting three kids at wildly different stages, a cross-country move that upended a near-perfect life in Ohio, and a spouse who, more than once, saw what he couldn't. Whether it's reading a 17-year-old's need for space or a direct report's need for acknowledgement, Matt's core insight is the same: the people around you need different things, and your job is to figure out what that is before you try to lead them. This is a conversation about presence, permission, and the quiet discipline of knowing when to speak and when to listen. In This Episode, You'll Learn: - Why removing yourself from creative decisions is one of the most powerful leadership moves you can make- How to build psychological safety without losing accountability- The difference between setting a vision and steering the outcome- What the Florida move taught one family about adversity, resilience, and what comfort really costs- How youth sports becomes one of the best leadership classrooms available- Why the same DISC framework that shapes your team management applies directly to parenting- What modelling behaviour actually looks like and why your team is watching more closely than you think- How to read what your kids need versus what they're asking for- Why the 9 o'clock conversation is the one that matters most- What it means to let someone fail, at work and at home, and when to step in anyway Top Takeaways: - When you become a leader of leaders, your job is enabling, not doing. Most people know that. Few make the change.- If you constantly step in, the problem is usually your vision, not your team's capability.- Hide your own failures and your team has no permission to have theirs.- Your team won't follow your words. They will follow your choices.- Observe before you act. The parent and manager who does this will always outperform the one who leads with solutions.- Adversity is a gift you can give your kids. Comfort has a cost that doesn't always show up until later.- At home, efficiency is a liability. The conversation your child needs to have will not happen on your schedule.- Hard limits and guardrails are not the same thing. Knowing which one a moment calls for is most of the job. About Matt Eisenacher:Matt Eisenacher is Chief Brand Officer at First Watch, the daytime dining brand he has helped grow from 200 to over 500 locations, including through a successful IPO. Before First Watch, Matt held senior marketing and brand roles across the restaurant and food industry, building high-performing creative teams grounded in trust, clarity, and culture. Known for his directness, his instinct for talent, and his commitment to family, Matt brings the same values to his team in Bradenton that he brings home to his wife Brooke and their three children. Chapters - How to Get the Team to Think Creatively - How to be a Leader of Leaders - First Watch's Chief Brand Officer on the Company's Growth - Are You a Different Leader Today? - Grow as a Leader: - How Sports Affects My Daughter's Life - Married Couple on The Florida Move - How to Manage People's Lives - Top Executives on Parenting - Employees Share Their Values at First Watch - Dad on How to Parent Different Kids - Senior Leaders: Model the Behavior - The Importance of Family Time - How Do You Want Your Kids To Feel About You? - CEO and ABCs: Balancing Work and Family
In this episode of CEOs & ABCs, Kevin sits down with Eliot Hamlisch, Chief Commercial Officer at Amtrak, to explore what it really means to lead with humanity, at work and at home. From transforming customer experience at some of the world’s biggest brands to raising two children while balancing a demanding executive career, Eliot shares the mindset shifts, rituals, and values that have shaped both his leadership and fatherhood. Together they unpack why success without happiness isn’t success at all, how to compartmentalize work to become more present with family, and why some of the best leaders are simply great listeners. Eliot also reflects on career-defining moments that pushed him far beyond his comfort zone, including being unexpectedly asked to lead teams and functions he’d never managed before. This conversation is a masterclass in leadership, optimism, parenting, resilience, and building a life you actually enjoy living. In this episode: Why customer experience starts with understanding human psychology The surprising rituals Eliot uses to stay connected to his children while travelling How to compartmentalize work and be fully present at home The importance of helping children build resilience through adversity Why making your boss’s life easier accelerates career growth Lessons from leading transformation at legacy brands like Amtrak The power of optimism and choosing happiness as a measure of success How ambitious professionals can pursue balance without sacrificing family Key Takeaways: The work will always be there. Presence with family won’t. Happiness may be the most important definition of success. Growth often comes from saying yes before you feel fully ready. Children learn values less from what we say and more from what we consistently model. Leadership at home and leadership at work require many of the same skills: listening, patience, empathy, and resilience. About Eliot Hamlisch:Eliot Hamlisch is the Chief Commercial Officer at Amtrak, where he is leading a customer experience transformation rooted in hospitality and human connection. Throughout his career, including leadership roles at American Express, Wyndham, AMC Theatres, and Deloitte, he has built a reputation for understanding consumer psychology, driving growth, and leading through change. Chapters - Guest Background and Introduction - Customer-Centric Leadership at Amtrak - Navigating Career Growth and Promotions - Balancing Work and Family Life - Compartmentalizing Work and Family - Preparing Children for Success - Career Growth and Mobility - The Source of Drive and Ambition - Instilling Values in Children - Self-Care and Maintaining Optimism - Finding Balance in Life
What if the future of leadership isn’t about control, authority, or climbing higher… but about creating environments where people genuinely feel seen, trusted, and valued? In this episode of CEOs & ABCs, Kevin sits down with Rachel Wallis Andreasson, former CEO of a multi-billion-dollar family business, leadership expert, and author of The Sixth Level. Rachel shares her extraordinary journey from working outside her family company at PepsiCo, to eventually leading Wallis Companies, a business founded by her father that grew from one gas station on Route 66 into a billion-dollar enterprise. Rachel opens up about the realities of succession in family business, navigating grief after losing key leaders, stepping into the CEO role, and ultimately making the difficult decision to step away for the greater good of the company’s future. Together, Kevin and Rachel explore why traditional command-and-control leadership is failing, how trust and transparency create resilient organizations, and why the same principles that build thriving workplaces also create stronger families and deeper parent-child relationships. This conversation is filled with wisdom on leadership, parenting, legacy, emotional capacity, and the simple human skills we often forget matter most. If you lead a business, a team, or a family, this episode will challenge how you think about success. In This Episode: Why Rachel chose to work outside her family business before joining leadership The surprising lessons she learned cleaning bathrooms and mopping floors at Taco Bell Growing a family business from one gas station to over $1.5 billion in revenue The emotional reality of stepping into, and stepping away from, the CEO role How family business succession impacts leadership and legacy The four conditions behind Rachel’s Sixth Level leadership framework Why psychological safety, transparency, and trust create stronger organizations How leadership principles apply directly to parenting and family life The importance of emotional capacity and filling your own bucket first Building cultures, at work and home, where people want to stay Key Takeaways: Great leadership starts with connection, not control. People thrive when they feel trusted, cared for, and heard. Transparency creates resilience during uncertainty and change. The same principles that build exceptional teams also strengthen families. Leadership is stewardship, whether at work or at home. Sometimes protecting a legacy means having the courage to step away. About Rachel Wallis Andreasson: Rachel Wallis Andreasson spent over two decades in leadership roles at Wallis Companies, a family-owned fuel and convenience business founded by her father. After rising through multiple roles across the organization, she became CEO in 2017. Today, Rachel is an author, speaker, and advocate for a new leadership paradigm focused on trust, care, mutuality, and human potential through her framework, The Sixth Level. Chapters - Introduction and Context - The Sixth Level Framework - Leadership Lessons from Family Business - Core Principles of the Sixth Level - Transitioning Leadership Styles - The Importance of Justness and Transparency - Building a Thriving Culture - Resilience in Leadership - Incentivizing Connection and Care - Real-World Applications of the Framework - Conclusion and Future Outlook - The Flywheel of Leadership and Connection - Parenting Through Leadership Principles - Rituals and Family Bonds - Involving Children in Career Conversations - Stewardship in Leadership - Starting Conversations for Connection
In this episode of CEOs & ABCs, Kevin sits down with Camille Hymes, former Chief Operating Officer of Smoothie King and former executive leader at Starbucks, Jack in the Box, and ExxonMobil, to explore what it means to lead with intention, both at work and at home. Camille shares how a deeply personal mission statement became the compass for her career: “to live in peace and bliss and to help others succeed beyond what they ever imagined.” From navigating executive leadership roles at some of the world’s most recognizable brands to raising a family through constant relocations, career transitions, and personal tragedy, Camille reflects on the moments that reshaped her definition of success. Now in what she calls a “power pause” between roles for the first time in her career, Camille opens up about learning to slow down, reconnect with her family, and become more intentional about the opportunities she says yes, and no, to. Kevin and Camille also discuss executive coaching, building a personal board of advisors, the importance of presence, and how leadership rooted in humanity creates stronger teams, cultures, and families. This is a conversation about ambition, grief, service, leadership, and the courage to align your life with what matters most. In this episode• Camille’s journey from ExxonMobil to the C-suite at Smoothie King• How her personal mission statement guides her decisions• Why she chose to take a “power pause” between leadership roles• Learning to say no to opportunities that don’t align with purpose• The role executive coaching played in her growth as a leader• Building a personal “board of directors” for support and guidance• Navigating motherhood while leading at major global brands• How the loss of her daughter transformed her understanding of presence Key takeaways• A clear personal mission statement creates clarity in both life and career• Leadership is less about authority and more about service to others• Presence is a practice and small rituals can create meaningful connection• Executive coaching can accelerate both personal and professional growth• Great cultures are built through humanity, not just performance metrics• You don’t have to do everything alone, it truly takes a village• Sometimes the most powerful thing you can do is pause and reflect• Saying no becomes easier when you know your purpose About the guestCamille Hymes is a transformational executive leader and former Chief Operating Officer of Smoothie King. Over her career, she has held senior leadership roles at Starbucks, Jack in the Box, and ExxonMobil, leading large-scale operations, culture transformation, and organizational growth. Known for her people-first leadership style, Camille is passionate about helping others succeed beyond what they imagined possible. She also serves on the boards of Reading Is Fundamental and Blessings in a Backpack, supporting children’s literacy and nutrition initiatives. Charitable Organisations that Camille Supports: https://secure.rif.org/page/97851/donate/1 https://www.blessingsinabackpack.org/category/donating/ Chapters - CEO and ABCs: How to Lead - CEO and ABCs - Steve Kroffat on His Sabbatical - Power Prison: Saying No to Opportunities - The Mission of Service - The Professional Journey of ExxonMobil's Women - In the Elevator With ExxonMobil's - Being More Present With Your Child - Jack in the Box CEO on Why He Left ExxonMobil - When Did Leadership Become More About Service than Appointment? - How to Stay Connected With Your Family - In the Elevator With Co-workers - The Personal Element of Company Culture - Why I Left Starbucks for Domino's - In the Elevator With Starbucks' - In the Elevator With Smoothie King's Executive Team - Tom Cruise on His Strengths and Weaknesses - Bringing People Along - Kevin McKinnon on His Next Chapter - Nonprofits that support literacy and nutrition
In this episode of CEOs & ABCs, Kevin sits down with Karen Robinovitz, co-founder of Sloomoo Institute, to explore a journey that moves from pioneering the creator economy to rebuilding a life through something as simple and powerful as play. Karen was early to everything, journalism, digital media, and influencer marketing, helping shape how brands and creators work together today. But behind that success was a period of profound personal loss that left her unable to function for over a year. She shares how an unexpected moment—sitting on the floor playing with slime, became a turning point. What started as a small escape turned into a path back to joy, presence, and ultimately, purpose. That moment became the foundation for Sloomoo Institute, an immersive experience designed to reconnect people to play, creativity, and emotional wellbeing. Kevin and Karen explore the deeper meaning behind play, why so many adults lose access to it, and what it actually costs us personally and professionally. They also connect it to leadership, parenting, and performance, showing how joy, creativity, and presence aren’t distractions, they’re advantages. This is a conversation about grief, reinvention, and the courage to build something meaningful from the most unexpected place. In this episode• How Karen went from journalist to building one of the first influencer agencies• Spotting the future of digital, creators, and commerce before it existed• The hidden personal struggles behind outward success• Navigating profound loss, grief, and a complete life reset• How a moment of play sparked healing and a new business idea• The origin and rapid growth of Sloomoo Institute• Why play isn’t just for kids and what adults lose without it• The science behind sensory experiences, joy, and nervous system regulation• Building a brand rooted in purpose, inclusion, and emotional wellbeing• Expanding Sloomoo into a full-scale universe (products, storytelling, and more) Key takeaways• Success doesn’t follow a straight line, but patterns make sense in hindsight• Innovation often looks like “crazy” before it becomes obvious• You can be thriving professionally while struggling deeply personally• Joy and play are not indulgences, they’re essential for wellbeing and performance• Sensory experiences can be powerful tools for healing and emotional regulation• The best businesses don’t just sell products, they create transformation• Reconnecting with your inner child can unlock creativity, presence, and clarity• Sometimes the smallest, simplest moments (like play) can change everything About the guestKaren Robinovitz is the co-founder of Sloomoo Institute, an immersive, sensory experience designed to deliver joy through hands-on play. Before Sloomoo, Karen was a journalist and co-founded Digital Brand Architects (DBA), one of the first influencer marketing agencies, helping shape the creator economy as we know it today. Her work sits at the intersection of storytelling, brand building, and cultural insight, but her most meaningful work came from turning personal healing into a mission-driven business focused on joy, inclusion, and mental wellbeing. Chapters - Introduction - CEO and ABCs: Karen Robinowitz - Sloomoo Institute: In the Slime Museum - Inventing the Influencer Agency - What Influencer Marketing Is Really About - How to Build a Successful Career While Being Present at Home - How Slime Helped My Friend's Daughter - "Your Inner Voice" - The Hardest Part of Starting a Business - Sloomoo: From Book to Graphic Novel - Reactivating Your Inner Child With Slime
What does it really look like to build a career from nothing, and what happens when you finally get there? In this episode of CEOs & ABCs, Joe Cannon, SVP at Hyperice, shares the full arc of his journey, from graduating into a brutal job market with no clear path, to piecing together freelance work, sleeping in his car, and chasing any opportunity that could get him in the room. Joe opens up about the uncertainty and pressure of those early years, applying to hundreds of jobs with little response, and the resilience it took to keep going when nothing seemed to be working. That period didn’t just shape his career, it shaped how he sees people, opportunity, and leadership today. Now at Hyperice, Joe sits at the center of one of the fastest-growing brands in wellness, helping drive partnerships, cultural moments, and global expansion. From the Super Bowl to SXSW, he’s been part of building a brand that’s redefining how everyday people think about recovery, performance, and health. But this conversation goes far beyond business. Joe reflects on what it means to navigate a high-performance career while raising two young children and the constant tension between ambition and presence. He shares the realities of modern fatherhood, the guilt, the trade-offs, and the small intentional choices that matter most. At the heart of it all is a simple but powerful truth: your kids don’t care about your job title, your deals, or your wins. They just want you. This is a conversation about hustle, perspective, identity, and redefining success, not just by what you build, but by who you show up as along the way. In This Episode From post-college rejection to breaking into the industry Sleeping in his car and saying yes to any opportunity How Craigslist hustles led to career-defining moments Building Hyperice through partnerships and cultural activations The explosion of the wellness industry and consumer behavior Lessons from early struggle that shaped his leadership style The reality of balancing a demanding career with two young kids Why being present matters more than being perfect Key Takeaways Hustle creates opportunity, but relationships sustain it Early career struggles build resilience and perspective You don’t need a perfect path, just momentum Success at work means less if you’re absent at home Kids don’t care about your title, they care about your presence Being a parent is a constant evolution, not a perfect game Curiosity and humility are superpowers in business The best leaders remember what it felt like to be overlooked About the Guest Joe Cannon is the Senior Vice President at Hyperice, a global leader in recovery and wellness technology. He has played a key role in scaling the brand through major partnerships, cultural activations, and experiences across events like the Super Bowl, The Masters, and SXSW. Before Hyperice, Joe built his career through unconventional paths, freelance work, startups, and sheer persistence. Joe brings a unique perspective to leadership, growth, and opportunity.
What happens when a high-achieving career is working on paper, but no longer feels aligned in real life? In this episode of CEOs and ABCs, Kevin sits down with Charisse Hughes, a senior marketing and growth executive who has led at some of the world’s most iconic consumer brands, including Estée Lauder, Pandora, Kellogg, and Kellanova. But this conversation goes far beyond titles and career highlights. Charisse opens up about being raised by a single mother and grandmother who instilled in her the values of education, independence, faith, and community. She reflects on the years she spent on the fast track, getting promoted, traveling the world, and building an impressive career, while realizing that work had quietly become her entire identity. She shares the pivotal decision to step away from a successful role without another one lined up, the fear that came with it, and the clarity she found on the other side. Kevin and Charisse also talk about leadership, ambition, bonus motherhood, and why presence is not something anyone gives you. It is something you have to choose. This is a conversation about success, identity, reinvention, and building a life that reflects what truly matters. In this episode • How Charisse’s mother and grandmother shaped her values around education, independence, faith, and service • Why starting in finance gave her an edge as a marketer and business leader • What she learned from moving into beauty, luxury, and global brand leadership • The hidden cost of life on the fast track and how achievement became her whole story • Why she left a successful role without another job lined up and what that season taught her • How Pandora and Kellogg helped shape her leadership and confidence at the highest levels • What becoming a bonus mom taught her about love, values, and showing up for family • Why clarity, balance, and presence are not given to us, they must be chosen Key takeaways • Success on paper is not always the same thing as success in alignment with your values • Career momentum can become addictive if you do not stop to ask what it is costing you • Taking a step back is not always career suicide. Sometimes it is the clearest move forward • A background in finance can make marketers stronger, more commercial, and more influential leaders • Leadership is not just about functional excellence. It is about adaptability, conviction, calm, and the ability to influence others • Children reflect back what matters most and can keep us grounded in what is real • You do not need to stay locked into a path just because it once made sense • Nobody is going to hand you the clarity or balance you want. You have to choose it Guest Links/Show Notes Virtuosi League (https://virtuosileague.com/), Equal Justice Initiative (https://eji.org/) Howard University (https://giving.howard.edu/ways-give) About Charisse Hughes Charisse Hughes is a senior marketing and growth executive who has held leadership roles at some of the world’s most recognized consumer brands, including Estée Lauder, Pandora, Kellogg, and Kellanova. She has served as Chief Marketing Officer, led major brand and business transformations, sat on the board of Crocs, and was named CMO of the Year by Consumer Goods Technology in 2022. Known for combining commercial rigor with bold leadership, Charisse brings a powerful perspective on career growth, reinvention, and leading with purpose. Chapters - A single boss's decision to leave her job - CEO and ABCs: Parenting Wins and Fails - How Did Your Mother's Success Shape You? - The Influencers of Luxury - How CMOs Can Connect with CFOs - The Making of Estee Lauder - Ex-Estee Lauder CEO on The Cult of Productivity - If You Had Advice For Your Younger Self - What's Motherhood Like For Bonus Parents? - As a Bonus Mother - What values did you want to help instill in your children as - Pandora's Take a Leave of Absence - Have You Changed Pandora's Direction? - What Does a Leader Need to Know to Lead Today? - What are some ways to develop your leadership skills? - In the Elevator With Kellogg - Sharice Jones on Choosing the Right Balance
In this episode of CEOs & ABCs, Kevin sits down with Tariq Hassan, former Chief Marketing Officer of McDonald’s, to unpack a belief that shaped his entire leadership philosophy: you cannot get to incredible outcomes when fear of failure is baked into the system. Tariq shares how growing up dyslexic quietly wired him for fear and overcompensation, and how that same “paralysis” shows up inside companies as the ideas people never share, the risks teams never take, and the opportunities no one even knows they missed. From Petco turnarounds to leading at one of the most iconic brands in the world, he explains why psychological safety is not a soft concept. It is a performance advantage. You will hear the simple cultural shift Tariq used to make risk-taking real: celebrating “Amazing Almosts”, the best failures of the quarter, so teams could learn, pivot, and build confidence without losing accountability. Kevin and Tariq also bring this conversation home, exploring parenting, long-distance seasons, two high-performing careers under one roof, and the daily practices that help a child keep talking, especially when the stakes get higher. This is a conversation about fear, trust, standards, and the environments we create, at work and at home, so people feel safe enough to grow. In this episode, you'll learn: Why fear of failure becomes invisible, but still drives behavior in high-performing cultures What psychological safety looks like in real meetings, not in theory How to build “risk with guardrails” instead of chaos or blame The “Amazing Almosts” practice, and why celebrating the right failures changes everything Repairing after you miss it as a leader, and why it only feels awkward the first time The parenting parallel: when to catch, when to let them fall, and how trust is built Long-distance parenting, presence vs quantity, and choosing the moments that matter Why this mindset matters even more in an AI-driven world of continuous learning Top Takeaways: You can’t talk a team into psychological safety. You have to prove it through actions and rituals. Fear shows up most in what doesn’t get said: the risks avoided, the debates not had, the ideas withheld. The goal is not celebrating constant failure. The goal is learning fast, staying accountable, and building confidence to take smart swings. Cultural change feels unnatural at first. Keep going until it becomes normal, and the language becomes part of how the team operates. At home, psychological safety is often measured by one thing: they keep talking. Presence is less about quantity and more about intentional moments your family remembers. The best leaders repair quickly, build truth-tellers around them, and stay open to feedback even when it stings. About Tariq Hassan:Tariq Hassan is a senior marketing leader who most recently served as Chief Marketing Officer at McDonald’s. Prior to McDonald’s, he held executive leadership roles at Petco, Bank of America, and Hewlett-Packard, building a career across some of the world’s most recognizable brands. Known for blending performance with humanity, Tariq focuses on the cultural conditions that unlock high-performing teams, especially psychological safety, trust, and the ability to take smart risks without fear. Chapters - Introduction - Creating Psychological Safety in Organisation - Cultural Implications of Fear in Organizations - Celebrating Failures: The Amazing Almosts - Balancing Risk and Responsibility in Leadership - Navigating Parenting Challenges - Creating Psychological Safety at Home - Balancing Ambitious Careers - Maintaining Connection During Absence
CEOs & ABCs is the podcast for high performers who lead at work and show up at home.Hosted by Kevin Rice, this show features candid conversations with executives, founders, and rising leaders about how they’ve advanced their careers while staying present for the moments that matter most... raising kids, building strong partnerships, and prioritizing their health.Each episode dives into executive career advice, leadership development, work-life balance, and the realities of parenting while managing demanding professional lives. Whether you’re navigating promotions, team growth, toddler tantrums, or time management, you’ll find insights and inspiration to lead with intention - both at work and at home.️ New episodes weekly Topics: Career growth, executive mindset, parenting, burnout prevention, productivity, and more For working parents, driven professionals, and leaders building meaningful livesSubscribe now and join the journey from "boardrooms to bedtime stories."
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