Clearer Thinking with Spencer Greenberg

When painful thoughts feel true but aren't (with Christine Padesky)

June 1, 2026·1h 20m
Episode Description from the Publisher

Read the full transcript here. Why do our minds sometimes need experiments more than insight? What changes when therapy becomes a way of practicing life outside the therapist’s office rather than explaining life inside it? If CBT is fundamentally about learning skills, how much of good therapy depends on what happens between sessions? Why can a five-minute action matter when depression says that nothing is worth doing? What does it mean to test a thought instead of trying to replace it with something merely positive? How do moods make certain evidence visible while hiding the rest? Why does anxiety grow when we organize life around avoiding danger rather than strengthening our capacity to cope? What would change if we treated catastrophes not only as predictions to challenge, but as scenarios we could prepare to handle? How do safety behaviors keep fear alive by teaching the wrong lesson? And what might therapy become if it started not only with what is broken, but with the strengths, habits, and forms of resilience a person already has? Links: Christine's Book: Mind Over Mood Christine's YouTube Channel Christine A. Padesky, PhD is a psychologist, author, and international lecturer. She has been recognized for her client-centered, collaborative, and strengths-based contributions to cognitive behavioral therapy (CBT). Her quest to help more people live fulfilled lives through CBT techniques led her to co-write, along with Dennis Greenberger, the best-selling self-help book, Mind Over Mood: Change How You Feel by Changing the Way You Think. Staff Spencer Greenberg — Host + Director Ryan Kessler — Producer + Technical Lead WeAmplify — Transcriptionists Igor Scaldini — Marketing Consultant Music Broke for Free Josh Woodward Lee Rosevere Quiet Music for Tiny Robots wowamusic zapsplat.com Affiliates Clearer Thinking GuidedTrack Mind Ease Positly UpLift [Read more]

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