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Divergent States cuts through psychedelic hype with grounded, curious conversations about what these substances actually do.Hosted by 3L1T3, founder of r/Psychonaut, the world’s largest psychedelic harm-reduction community, and co-hosted by Bryan, a USMC veteran and advocate for psychedelic healing, the show brings together lived experience, science, and culture without losing its sense of humor.This isn’t a spiritual podcast.This isn’t a marketing platform.No mysticism. No sales pitch. Just real conversations, harm reduction, and honest questions.We explore how psychedelics shape mental health, creativity, and society, from underground use and peer-support communities to clinical trials, therapy rooms, and shifting public attitudes. Some episodes get serious. Some get weird. All of them are grounded in respect for the people actually taking these substances and living with the outcomes.Guests include Rick Doblin, Reggie Watts, Leonard Pickard, Anne Wagner, Hamilton Morris, and Rick Strassman.Divergent States is built on the same principles that made r/Psychonaut work at scale: curiosity without gullibility, openness without losing your footing, and safety without killing the joy.If you’re looking for guru worship, this isn’t your show.If you’re looking for thoughtful, funny, and grounded conversations about psychedelics and the lives they touch, welcome to Divergent States.New episodes every two weeks.
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- 2 weeks ago1h 4m
The Hidden Politics of Psychedelic Media | Dennis Walker
Dennis Walker joins Divergent States to unpack how psychedelic stories actually become “news,” why sensationalism dominates drug coverage, and how media narratives shape public perception around psychedelics. We discuss psychedelic exceptionalism, corporate psychedelics, satire as social critique, harm reduction, underground culture, MAPS, FDA approval, clinical gatekeeping, psychedelic tourism, and the growing divide between real-world psychedelic use and institutional messaging. Dennis is...
- May 5, 202656 min
Psychedelics Don’t Fix Your Life… Here’s What They Actually Do | Talia Eisenberg
Psychedelics don’t fix your life. They don’t make you a better person. They don’t replace responsibility. And they don’t solve the problems waiting for you when you come back. In this episode, we sit down with Talia Eisenberg from Beond to talk about what actually happens after a powerful psychedelic experience—especially with ibogaine. What changes, what doesn’t, and why the hardest part is often what comes after. We get into: why insight isn’t the same as changewhat people misunderstand abo...
- Apr 21, 202654 min
Psilocybin Therapy Works… But Not Like You Think, with Compass Pathways
If one or two psychedelic sessions can produce measurable improvements in treatment-resistant depression, why does modern psychiatry still rely on daily medication? In this episode of Divergent States, we sit down with Dr. Steve Levine, psychiatrist and Chief Patient Officer at Compass Pathways, to break down their newly released Phase 3 clinical trial results for COMP360 psilocybin therapy. But this isn’t a hype piece. This is a critical look at what the data actually shows—and what people m...
- Apr 6, 202648 min
Manuela Picq: The People Behind the Coca Leaf - The Many Faces of Coca Part Three
This is the human center of The Many Faces of Coca. By the time coca enters Western conversations, it’s already been abstracted—reduced to policy, drugs, or crime. But for millions of people, coca isn’t any of those things. It’s daily life. In this final episode of the series, we speak with political theorist and anthropologist Manuela Picq, who has lived and worked alongside communities in the Andes and Amazon. This conversation moves beyond theory and into lived reality—how coca functions a...
- Mar 16, 20261h 3m
Dennis McKenna: The Chemistry Behind the Coca Leaf - The Many Faces of Coca Part Two
The Many Faces of Coca – Part Two In Part Two of the Many Faces of Coca series, 3L1T3 and Bryan sit down with renowned ethnopharmacologist Dennis McKenna to explore the science behind the coca leaf. Part One focused on history and politics with Wade Davis, this conversation turns to the biology and chemistry of the plant itself. What actually happens when coca is chewed? What compounds exist in the leaf besides cocaine? Why did human cultures independently domesticate coca multiple times? Den...
- Mar 2, 20261h 0m
Wade Davis: From Sacred Leaf to Global Scapegoat - The Many Faces of Coca Part One
In Part One of The Many Faces of Coca, 3L1T3 and Bryan sit down with Wade Davis to unpack the long history of the coca leaf and how a plant used for over 8,000 years became globally criminalized. This conversation isn’t about cocaine. It’s about coca. Wade walks us through: How coca was independently domesticated multiple times in pre-Columbian South AmericaWhy early 20th-century elites blamed coca for poverty instead of confronting inequalityThe 1949 UN commission that arrived with its concl...
- Feb 16, 202650 min
ETEREO: What No One Tells You About Iboga Work
Iboga has a reputation. It’s intense. It’s long. It carries real risk. And for some people, it’s life-changing. But what actually happens inside a retreat container? And what does this work look like behind the scenes? In this episode of Divergent States, 3L1T3 and Bryan sit down with Paije West and Fletcher Burdick, founders of ETEREO, an iboga retreat center in Baja, Mexico. Their approach sits somewhere between medical oversight and traditional ceremony, which opens up some thoughtful ques...
- Feb 2, 202657 min
Cesar Marin: Microdosing, Midlife, and Reinvention
What happens when a 25-year career at CNN ends — and a new life begins? In this episode of Divergent States, we talk with Cesar Marin, former CNN producer and founder of Microdosing Over 50, about how psychedelics helped him navigate midlife, identity loss, and personal reinvention. Cesar shares his journey from broadcast media to becoming an advocate for intentional microdosing later in life. We explore the difference between microdosing for healing vs optimization, how intention shapes outc...
About Divergent States
Divergent States cuts through psychedelic hype with grounded, curious conversations about what these substances actually do.Hosted by 3L1T3, founder of r/Psychonaut, the world’s largest psychedelic harm-reduction community, and co-hosted by Bryan, a USMC veteran and advocate for psychedelic healing, the show brings together lived experience, science, and culture without losing its sense of humor.This isn’t a spiritual podcast.This isn’t a marketing platform.No mysticism. No sales pitch. Just real conversations, harm reduction, and honest questions.We explore how psychedelics shape mental health, creativity, and society, from underground use and peer-support communities to clinical trials, therapy rooms, and shifting public attitudes. Some episodes get serious. Some get weird. All of them are grounded in respect for the people actually taking these substances and living with the outcomes.Guests include Rick Doblin, Reggie Watts, Leonard Pickard, Anne Wagner, Hamilton Morris, and Rick Strassman.Divergent States is built on the same principles that made r/Psychonaut work at scale: curiosity without gullibility, openness without losing your footing, and safety without killing the joy.If you’re looking for guru worship, this isn’t your show.If you’re looking for thoughtful, funny, and grounded conversations about psychedelics and the lives they touch, welcome to Divergent States.New episodes every two weeks.
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