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How Gary Gulman Turned Depression Into Comedy Gold | Better in Person

July 29, 2026·47 min·6-min readinterviewcomedy
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Gary Goleman, a 6'6" comedian and former accountant, transformed his lifelong struggles with depression into a powerful creative force, producing deeply personal, funny, and moving work that resonates far beyond comedy. His journey—from being fired for cracking a joke at PwC to creating the

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Gary Goleman

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Books, people, and resources mentioned in this episode.

People

Gary GolemanStephen DubnerSadeJudd ApatowMike BonfiglioGary Goleman's manager

Books

Misfit, Growing Up Awkward in the 80sby Gary GolemanThe Most Good You Can Doby Peter SingerHow to Change Your Mindby Michael Pollan

Companies

PricewaterhouseCoopers

Topics

Mental HealthPersonal FinancePop CultureSelf Improvement

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