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David Gelles, Best-Selling Author / Climate Reporter, The New York Times

March 23, 2026·34 min
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What does it take to lead with principle in a system defined by pressure, trade-offs, and competing interests? In this HOW Conversation, HOW founder Dov Seidman sits down with David Gelles, best-selling author and climate reporter for The New York Times, to explore the central paradox of modern capitalism: how businesses can be both profitable and purposeful—without ever fully resolving the tension between the two. Drawing from Gelles’ latest book The Dirtbag Billionaire, the co...

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