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by Chloe Shih and Eric Wei
Welcome to Office Drama (formerly JOMO) - a work-culture talk show about the inner drama behind career breakthroughs. I'm Chloe Shih, a former tech product manager turned 2M+ followers creator, and I sit with people obsessed with what they do, learn about the lessons they wish they knew earlier, and reveal the drama within. We also have a monthly(ish) advice segment, Coworker Confessions, for viewers to anonymously share their work tea or situations to get a second opinion.
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- 2 weeks ago1h 13m
30 Years of Career Advice in 1 Hour | Deb Liu (CEO @Ancestry.com, VP of Product @Meta)
okay I need you to understand that this episode genuinely changed me 🥹✨Deb Liu is one of the most decorated women in tech. She spent 12 years at Facebook where she founded Facebook Marketplace, rose to VP, and then became CEO of Ancestry.com. She has 4 million+ views on her Substack, she's a board member of Poshmark and Intuit. She is simply built different!In this episode we get into:→ how Facebook Marketplace launched and immediately got a New York Times headline about drugs, guns, and baby hedgehogs 💀→ the invisible rules of power and influence that nobody tells you before you walk into a room→ if work feels misaligned you might just need to be repotted 🪴→ how to hold high standards as a leader without traumatizing everyone around you→ when to persist, pivot, or quit (and why quitting is actually the first chapter of her new book)→ why ambition without joy becomes brittlethis is the episode I have been wanting to make since I started Office Drama. Deb is one of those people who has an answer for every question because she has genuinely lived and reflected on such a variety of experiences in her life. This episode is true hopecore and Deb somehow makes you feel like everything is going to be okay 🥺➔ Deb's Substack:https://debliu.substack.com➔ Deb on LinkedIn:https://www.linkedin.com/in/deborahliu➔ Deb on Instagram:https://www.instagram.com/debliu_Submit your Coworker Confessions 👇https://bit.ly/coworker-confessionsif you enjoyed this episode please follow, rate 5 stars ⭐️ and drop a comment — it helps more people find the show and means everything to us 🥹𝙎𝙊𝘾𝙄𝘼𝙇𝙎🌸 instagram → https://www.instagram.com/chloe.shihOD instagram → https://www.instagram.com/officedrama.podtiktok → https://www.tiktok.com/@chloeshihthreads → https://www.threads.net/@chloe.shihlinkedin → https://www.linkedin.com/in/chloe-shih/patreon → https://patreon.com/OfficeDramaSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
- 4 weeks ago1h 9m
The Secret to Being “Likable” at Work | Sr. PM @ Netflix, Ellie Rui | Office Drama
Thank You to Our Sponsor!✹ Granola: your AI notepad for meetings → https://granola.ai/officedramaEllie Rui got promoted every single year of her career. Six years at Microsoft, from new grad PM to Principal, and now she's a beloved senior PM at Netflix. Her answer for how is simpler than you’d think: hard work doesn't paint the full picture. We get into what actually drives fast career growth, how one great manager changed the trajectory of her entire career, and how the PM landscape is changing faster than ever.In this ep, we talk about:→ how she got promoted every single year for six years→ what a great manager actually does for your career→ what separates junior, senior, and principal PMs→ whether AI will actually replace PMs→ why new grads should pick startups over big tech right now→ and how to be likeable at work!→ Find Ellie on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ellierui/Submit your Coworker Confessions 👇https://bit.ly/coworker-confessionsIf you like what you hear please follow, rate 5 stars on Spotify and Apple Podcasts ⭐️ and leave a comment! 🫶 It's free~𝙎𝙊𝘾𝙄𝘼𝙇𝙎🌸 instagram → https://www.instagram.com/chloe.shih/OD instagram → https://www.instagram.com/officedrama.pod/tiktok → https://www.tiktok.com/@chloeshihthreads → https://www.threads.net/@chloe.shihlinkedin → https://www.linkedin.com/in/chloe-shih/patreon → https://patreon.com/OfficeDrama✹ business inquiries: business@colorsofchloe.comSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
- Sep 2, 20261h 3m
We need to talk about the AI Brand trip situation... ft. Megan Lieu | Office Drama
Creators got CANCELED for attending an AI brand trip...and we're finally addressing it. 🫣Today, I have the privilege of hosting Megan Lieu (data science + tech creator) on Office Drama to uncover what really went down on that trip and what it was actually like as a creator "getting canceled".I've worked professionally in Trust & Safety. I'm passionate about tech ethics, creator industries, and how we all should work together. And I really hope we can actually have constructive conversations on this platform that may push cultural, product, and policy changes for the better.It's very daunting as a female creator to address a situation like this, so I hope we can show up with empathy, curiosity, and constructive dialogue together. 🫶 Thank you for always making me feel safe to speak up.In this ep, we talk about:→ what actually happened on the brand trip→ the video Megan posted and the moment she realized it was going sideways→ how the press reaches out when they already know the angle they want→ why this trip hit a nerve when other AI brand trips didn't→ why the women creators took the brunt of the backlash→ how brands and creators should actually give each other feedback→ where tech creators sit between Silicon Valley's echo chamber and everyone else→ Find Megan on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/meganlieuSubmit your Coworker Confessions 👇https://bit.ly/coworker-confessionsIf you like what you hear please follow, rate 5 stars on Spotify and Apple Podcasts ⭐️ and leave a comment! 🫶 It's free~𝙎𝙊𝘾𝙄𝘼𝙇𝙎🌸 instagram → https://www.instagram.com/chloe.shihOD instagram → https://www.instagram.com/officedrama.podtiktok → https://www.tiktok.com/@chloeshihthreads → https://www.threads.net/@chloe.shihlinkedin → https://www.linkedin.com/in/chloe-shih/patreon → https://patreon.com/OfficeDrama✹ business inquiries: business@colorsofchloe.comSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
- Aug 24, 20261h 18m
The Art of Being Tastefully Unhinged | Sr Director of Brand Marketing @Duolingo, Kat Chan
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- Aug 10, 202655 min
My Honest Take on Motherhood vs Career (A Brutal Mid-year Reflection) | Office Drama
Half of 2026 is officially over... and I've never felt this behind in my career. 😅In today's episode of Office Drama, I'm doing my mid-year review out loud: what went wrong, what I'm scared of, and the 6 commitments I'm making so December-me doesn't have to go through the same existential disappointment.Today, we talk about:→ Why I felt so behind at the half-year mark of 2026→ The motherhood penalty: how does it impact your career? 👀→ A mutual creator who lost 10,000 followers overnight after announcing her pregnancy→ "Would you rather be pregnant or successful?" and why I don't want to choose!→ My 6 commitments I want us to try for the rest of 2026 Submit your Coworker Confessions 👇https://bit.ly/coworker-confessionsIf you like what you hear please follow, rate 5 stars on Spotify and Apple Podcasts ⭐️ and leave a comment!𝙎𝙊𝘾𝙄𝘼𝙇𝙎 🌸instagram → https://www.instagram.com/chloe.shih/OD instagram → https://www.instagram.com/officedrama.pod/tiktok → https://www.tiktok.com/@chloeshihthreads → https://www.threads.net/@chloe.shihlinkedin → https://www.linkedin.com/in/chloe-shih/patreon → https://patreon.com/OfficeDrama✹ business inquiries:business@colorsofchloe.comSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
- Jul 27, 20261h 5m
You Should Quit Being a Creator | @Tafokints NASA, Esports, Content, Tech
We've heard time and time again about the burnt out tech employee who quits a stable job to chase the dream. This time we're exploring the reverse!Daniel "Tafo" Lee has lived more careers than I can count on two hands. JPL engineer, coach to Melee god Mang0, Yahoo Esports show host, CLG General Manager, the internet's Tetris teacher, Web3 economist, Andreessen Horowitz, and now, at 37, starting over in big tech. He's no stranger to the creator economy and his honest take on who should actually pursue it might save you five years of your life.In this ep, we talk about:→ how he coached a Melee god while working full time at NASA JPL→ the ultimatum from his wife that finally made him quit and move to Esports→ why 90% of streamers won't make it, and why minimum wage might be the better option→ betting on yourself at 37: relearning how to code from scratch in the AI era→ and how becoming a dad made him reevaluate the value of his timeThis episode is for anyone who's ever been told to follow their passion and quietly wondered if that advice is a trap. Tafo is proof that the real flex isn't dying on one hill but maybe knowing when to walk away towards the next one.→ Find Tafo:https://www.instagram.com/tafokintshttps://www.linkedin.com/in/daniellee912https://x.com/tafokintsSubmit your Coworker Confessions 👇https://bit.ly/coworker-confessionsIf you like what you hear please follow, rate 5 stars on Spotify and Apple Podcasts ⭐️ and leave a comment! 🫶 It's free~𝙎𝙊𝘾𝙄𝘼𝙇𝙎 🌸instagram → https://www.instagram.com/chloe.shih/OD instagram → https://www.instagram.com/officedrama.pod/tiktok → https://www.tiktok.com/@chloeshihthreads → https://www.threads.net/@chloe.shihlinkedin → https://www.linkedin.com/in/chloe-shih/patreon → https://patreon.com/OfficeDrama✹ business inquiries:business@colorsofchloe.comSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
- Jul 20, 20261h 17m
We Went on MasterChef and Lost Our Minds | @igumdrop @AngelsKimi @AriaSaki | Office Drama EP8
Nobody tells you that when you get cast on MasterChef, you get to choose three people to fly out as your friends and family. Jaime ( @igumdrop ) chose Aria ( @AriaSaki ) , Kimi ( @AngelsKimi ) and I, and we spent a week on set with NO phones, 7AM call times, and a front-row seat to watching her cook on the biggest stage of her life.In this ep, we talk about:→ why Jaime almost went alone→ the mandolin accident that didn't make it to air→ what Gordon Ramsay is ACTUALLY like→ the moment Aria destroyed a MasterChef contestant→ what traditional TV gets right that creators don't→ why chasing perfection as a creator isn't sustainable→ the narratives that get rewritten about women in gaming and streaming→ Find Jaime:https://www.youtube.com/@igumdrophttps://www.twitch.tv/igumdrophttps://www.instagram.com/igumdrop/https://www.tiktok.com/@igumdrop→ Find Aria:https://www.youtube.com/@AriaSakihttps://www.twitch.tv/ariasakihttps://www.instagram.com/ariasaki/https://www.tiktok.com/@ariasaki→ Find Kimi:https://www.youtube.com/@AngelsASMRhttps://www.youtube.com/@AngelsKimihttps://www.twitch.tv/angelskimi/https://www.instagram.com/angelskimi/https://www.instagram.com/gentleflamestudio/https://www.tiktok.com/@angelskimiiA huge thank you to the MasterChef production team for letting us share these stories!#MasterChef #MasterChefGlobalGauntlet @MasterChefonFOX @FOXTV @FoodClubFOXSubmit your Coworker Confessions 👇https://bit.ly/coworker-confessionsIf you like what you hear please follow, rate 5 stars on Spotify and Apple Podcasts ⭐️ and leave a comment! 🫶 It's free~𝙎𝙊𝘾𝙄𝘼𝙇𝙎🌸 instagram → https://www.instagram.com/chloe.shih/OD instagram → https://www.instagram.com/officedrama.pod/tiktok → https://www.tiktok.com/@chloeshihthreads → https://www.threads.net/@chloe.shihlinkedin → https://www.linkedin.com/in/chloe-shih/patreon → https://patreon.com/OfficeDrama✹ business inquiries: business@colorsofchloe.comSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
- Jul 13, 20261h 46m
The Truth About My MasterChef Debut | Jaime @iGumdrop (Home Chef, Streamer, 2M+ Creator)
Over the past decade, Jaime (@iGumdrop) has built a 2M+ following, founded her own successful clothing brand, dropped out of college to pursue streaming, and now she's on the cast of Season 16 of MasterChef!In this week's episode of Office Drama, we get into the version of the story you don't see on TV.In this ep, we talk about:→ why she almost said no to MasterChef→ what it's like to be on the cast of MasterChef→ the insane reality TV background check nobody warns you about→ what Gordon Ramsay is ACTUALLY like in person→ the roti canai controversy→ the truth about agents, managers, and the people you work with as a creator→ why "the interview never matters" and what she actually hires on→ how she skipped the 5-year plan and went straight to a deathbed planThis episode is for anyone who's ever been underestimated, boxed into one version of themselves, or scared to take the leap because they might look like a fool. Jaime is one of the most earnest, chaotic, hilarious people I know, and watching her bet on herself, publicly, after ten years of quietly putting in the work is exactly the kind of story I started this show to tell.→ Find Jaime:https://www.youtube.com/@igumdrophttps://www.twitch.tv/igumdrophttps://www.instagram.com/igumdrop/https://www.tiktok.com/@igumdropA huge thank you to the MasterChef production team for letting us share these stories!#MasterChef #MasterChefGlobalGauntlet@MasterChefonFOX @FOXTV @FoodClubFOXSubmit your Coworker Confessions 👇https://bit.ly/coworker-confessionsIf you like what you hear please follow, rate 5 stars on Spotify and Apple Podcasts ⭐️ and leave a comment! 🫶 It's free~𝙎𝙊𝘾𝙄𝘼𝙇𝙎 🌸instagram → https://www.instagram.com/chloe.shih/OD instagram → https://www.instagram.com/officedrama.pod/tiktok → https://www.tiktok.com/@chloeshihthreads → https://www.threads.net/@chloe.shihlinkedin → https://www.linkedin.com/in/chloe-shih/patreon → https://patreon.com/OfficeDrama✹ business inquiries:business@colorsofchloe.comSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
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Welcome to Office Drama (formerly JOMO) - a work-culture talk show about the inner drama behind career breakthroughs. I'm Chloe Shih, a former tech product manager turned 2M+ followers creator, and I sit with people obsessed with what they do, learn about the lessons they wish they knew earlier, and reveal the drama within. We also have a monthly(ish) advice segment, Coworker Confessions, for viewers to anonymously share their work tea or situations to get a second opinion.
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