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Anthropic’s first technical PM on token maxing, the jagged edge, and living in the future | Dianne Penn

July 26, 2026·1h 33m·7-min readinterviewtechnology
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Anthropic's rise from a small AI lab to a major player in the frontier model race was fueled by a culture of experimentation, tight integration between research and product, and key inflection points like Opus 3 and Opus 4.5. The product role has evolved to prioritize evals over tradition

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Dianne Penn

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