4. The Critic (Marc Ribot)

Marc Ribot has played guitar for Tom Waits, Elvis Costello, Norah Jones, Robert Plant, and about a thousand other people. He's also one of the most outspoken critics of AI music. He calls Suno and Udio plagiarism machines. And for him, the whole thing comes down to consent: nobody asked the musicians.I caught him on the phone somewhere between Milwaukee and Minneapolis, driving to a gig. Of all the conversations I've had about AI music, his might be the one I keep coming back to the most.Sign Marc's "We Need a Union" petition. Music in this episode:Marc Ribot, Map of a Blue City Marc Ribot, Saints Marc Ribot y Los Cubanos Postizos Also mentioned: Liz Pelly, Mood MachineFor more info go to www.LightBoxPodcast.com Email us! Mark@LightboxPodcast.comLight Box is reported, written, edited and produced by Mark Henry Phillips at Windhill Studios. Our producer is Drew Thurlow and assistant editor is Ryan Seaton.We make this show completely independently, so PLEASE support us by sharing the show with a few friends. Light Box is a proud member of the Radiotopia network from PRX.