Des Rocs joins SPIN Presents Lipps Service with Scott Lipps for an in-depth conversation covering the making of his new album To Hell and Back, working with legendary producer Joe Chiccarelli, the rise of AI in music, building an independent career, the early DIY New York scene, Kelly Clarkson, Dana White, Queens food favorites, and much more. Des Rocs has become one of modern rock’s most exciting artists by combining massive hooks, arena-sized ambition and relentless work ethic. Produced by Joe Chiccarelli, To Hell and Back continues that evolution with some of his biggest songs yet. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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