Loving You: The Untold Sondheim

No One Has Ever Loved Me | The Love Story of Stephen Sondheim and Peter E. Jones: Act Two

May 14, 2026·1h 6m
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In the second of two deeply special episodes, Peter E. Jones shares the story of his life and love with Stephen Sondheim – for the first time in over 25 years. In what will be PJ’s official – and only – record of events, he shares the honest and accurate story of how their love transformed both their lives.“I know the love – the deep, deep, deep love – that Steve had for PJ. He always said, ‘I’ll never be able to love, I’ll never be in love.’ And then it was unlocked, and he was in love.’ – Maria Friedman30 years on, what can Maria and Mia’s observations tell PJ about the relationship? What was the incredible gesture made by Steve to PJ – which, at the time, PJ didn’t even realise was so special? And reflecting on a lifetime of love and friendship with Steve, what would PJ say to Steve now?“We had something that never went away. There were times when it made things complicated, but I learned so much from it.” –  Peter E. JonesCHAPTERS: 00:00 Maria Friedman: ‘He was in love’02:08 Steve & PJ - The Story So Far ...04:16 ‘Passion’ and ‘Peyton Place’11:15 Maria and Mia17:56 ‘To PJ, With Love’20:06 'Just Another Love Story’31:00 ‘No One Has Ever Loved Me’34:26 ‘Sunset Boulevard in a Weird Twist’45:44 PJ & Steve: ‘Songs I Wish I’d Written’50:01 ‘Bluellow’ from ‘Peyton Place’ by Peter E. Jones58:13 PJ: ‘You are your choices’ Subscribe to Loving You: The Untold Sondheim on Apple and all good podcast apps to get every episode the moment it is released.  SUPPORT THE SHOW:► SUBSCRIBE to Loving You: The Untold Sondheim in your podcast app and be sure to get every episode the moment it is released.► RATE & REVIEW Leave a review in your podcast app and tell other Sondheim fans why they should listen.► SHARE Don't keep it to yourself! Share Loving You: The Untold Sondheim with other Sondheim fans you know.► FOLLOW Loving You: The Untold Sondheim on Instagram. CREDITSHosts and Producers: Martin Milnes and Peter E. JonesExecutive Producer: Jason CaffreyProduced in partnership with: Creative Kin Mixing and Mastering: Chris Traves Directed, Devised and Written by Martin Milnes CAST AND VOICE ACTORSMatt Bartlett, Mehran James McCullough.DRAMATIC RE-ENACTMENTSWritten by: Martin MilnesProduced by: Peter E. Jones MUSIC AND SCOREOriginal Score Composed by: Peter E. Jones Music and Lyrics of Stephen Sondheim: Courtesy of The Stephen Sondheim TrustSondheim Instrumental Tracks: Provided by Broadway Studio OrchestraMusic of Stephen Sondheim: Played by Colm MolloyTheme from Now, Voyager (Steiner): Played by the National Philharmonic Orchestra, conducted by Charles Gerhardt FEATURED SONGS & VOCAL PERFORMANCESExcerpts from Passion (Sondheim): Sung by Maria Friedman, Jere Shea and Marin Mazzie‘Numbers’ from Numbers (Peter E. Jones): Sung by James Martin, Angela Parks, Diann Hinson and Peter E. Jones‘Bluellow’ from Peyton Place (Peter E. Jones): Sung by Lauren Jones and Shane O’Riordan. Produced by Chris Traves with Musical Direction by Gareth Valentine and piano accompaniment by Sam Young

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