MAKE HUMAN

My producer asks the big questions w/ Carin Huebner

May 19, 2026·54 min
Episode Description from the Publisher

You want to make something big. Yet here you are with every practice and routine and productivity tool that signals you're trying, and somehow still not at the real thing. What is that?Carin Huebner is a visual artist, former spiritual director, and the producer behind Make Human. She's also a person who has, in tears at a creative salon she was hosting, said: I just want to make. I just want to make. I just want to make. She asked the questions in this episode.This is the foundation episode. We talk about what creativity actually is (not innovation, not art-making, not your output), why the shaming witness is the real engine behind most creative blocks, and what agency means when it isn't code for "your willpower just isn't strong enough." We draw the line between productivity and creativity.We went sideways and came back. We laughed. There were bears.There's a moment in here where Maria describes the thing that makes any transformative practice actually work: therapy, morning pages, a walk in the woods, a friend who just happens to have a lot of love in them. This may just be the foundation of what it is to Make Human.In this episodeCreativity vs. productivity and why that distinction is not about aestheticsShame: what it is, where it comes from, and how it kills the thing before it startsWhat agency actually is when "you can create anything" starts to feel like a threatTruth-telling as the first creative actYour flavor of aliveness: the thing you bring to any room that isn't earned or performedInner work is not self-indulgent because have you ever been around someone at war with themselves?Why makers need to have their say in what counts as human right nowWaypoints[00:00:00] — What this podcast is for[00:03:00] — How Maria got here[00:13:00] — What creativity actually is (And what it isn't) [00:16:00] — Agency without the toxic positivity[00:23:00] — Truth-telling as the first creative act[00:31:00] — Shame, blocks, and the eyes of love[00:46:00] — Your flavor of aliveness [00:50:00] — Why make anything right now ResourcesSecret invitationThe Artist's Way by Julia Cameron — and the morning pages practiceDavid Bedrick's work on shame and the shaming witness Acceptance Commitment Therapy (ACT) The Zen Buddhist "maybe good, maybe bad" storyHave a creative quandary? Submit a question to be answered on the showGot some creative resistance? Get your free audio guide to the Creative Resistance Practice for unblocking

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