On episode 90 of o11ycast, Ken Rimple and Jessica “Jess” Kerr speak with Cory Ondrejka. Together, they unpack the rise of agentic AI, the shifting identity of software engineers, and the growing importance of measuring real-world impact. Cory shares his concept of Outcome Engineering and how teams can adapt to a world where building is fast but validation is everything.Come find the Honeycomb team at O11yCon on May 21st!https://events.honeycomb.io/o11yConSF2026Use discount code SFCast2026 for 20% off
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