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Demis Hassabis, Google DeepMind and the Battle Over AI Safety

May 28, 2026·1h 1m·6-min readinterviewtechnology
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Demis Hassabis, the pioneering AI scientist and CEO of Google DeepMind, embodies the tension between scientific idealism and corporate power in the race to develop artificial general intelligence (AGI). Despite his early vision of a globally coordinated, safety-first approach to AI, he ha

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Sebastian Mallaby

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Sebastian MallabyDemis HassabisKara SwisherSam AltmanElon MuskDario AmodeiSundar PichaiGeoff HintonRishi SunakJeffrey HintonAlan Turing

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