Personal Injury Mastermind w/ Chris Dreyer

488. The Hidden Cost of DocuSign Intake: How Removing Human Touch Destroys Referrals at Scale | Larry Nussbaum, Altman Nussbaum Shunnarah Trial Attorneys

October 8, 2026·32 min
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Signing a case has never been easier. Earning the client's trust, plus the referrals that follow for generations? That's a whole different game. Larry Nussbaum of Altman Nussbaum Shunnarah Trial Attorneys has built a Massachusetts PI practice with more than 70 employees that has recovered more than $1 billion for clients. He built his approach to referrals at scale on something that's easy to lose in a DocuSign world: clients who actually know their lawyer. In this episode, Larry is back on the show for the first time since Episode 4, and he doesn't hold back. He and Chris Dreyer get into scaling a high-volume firm without treating clients like widgets, what private equity and lead-gen marketing miss, and why the long game still wins. You'll learn: How to build client trust at a personal injury firm when clients sign by DocuSign and never set foot in your office. Why clients push back on settlement value, and why the fix starts long before the number comes in. The 30-minute habit his coaches call bad for profits, and why Larry sees it as fuel for referrals at scale. What personal injury referral fees really look like today, and why the one-third standard is gone. Head over to Rankings.io and see for yourself how we can help take your business to the next level. Like what you hear? Hit Subscribe! We do this every week. Subscribe to our newsletter and get the freshest news every Monday: newsletter.rankings.io Get Social! Personal Injury Mastermind w/ Chris Dreyer powered by Rankings.io is on Instagram | YouTube | TikTok

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