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What Does it Mean to Be an American?

May 31, 2026·1h 20m·6-min readinterviewpolitics
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Ben Rhodes' book All We Say traces America's 250-year struggle over national identity through 15 pivotal speeches, revealing a recurring battle between an exclusionary, blood-and-soil nationalism and a progressive, creed-based vision of equality. The conversation with Jon Favreau unders

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Ben Rhodes

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Ben RhodesJon FavreauJ.D. VanceFrederic DouglassAlexander StephensonBarack Obama

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All We Sayby Ben Rhodes

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Civil Rights HistoryDemocracyForeign PolicyHistory Of ScienceInequalityRacial JusticeUs Politics

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