Public Defenseless

479 | What Data Tells Us About the Public Defender Well Being Crisis Part 2 w/Jenny Andrews, Matthew Thiese, and Sara McCarthy

May 21, 2026·1h 1m
Episode Description from the Publisher

Today, Hunter was joined once again by Jenny Andrews and for the first time Matthew Thiese and Sarah McCarthay. As was the case on Tuesday, this episode is a continued discussion about the National Public Defender Well-Being Study. This time, the focus is on the upcoming phase two that people can participate in starting June 1.       Guest:   Jenny Andrews, Director, Be Sustained   Matthew These Ph.D., Professor, Utah University School of Medicine   Sarah McCarthy, Chief Assistant Public Defender, Santa Clara, California   Resource:   Find Everything About the Study Here   https://besustained.org/   Contact Matthew Here   https://medicine.utah.edu/faculty/matthew-s-thiese <span lang="EN-GB" style= "font-

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