The Bulwark Podcast

Robert Kagan: A Total and Complete Shutdown of Trump

May 27, 2026·55 min·7-min readinterviewpolitics
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The conversation centers on the strategic defeat of the United States in the Middle East due to Donald Trump’s failed Iran policy, which has resulted in a de facto surrender and a dangerous shift in regional power. Bob Kagan argues that Trump's actions have not only damaged U.S. credibili

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Bob Kagan

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Books, people, and resources mentioned in this episode.

People

Bob KaganTim MillerDonald TrumpBen RhodesLindsey GrahamElbridge ColbyXi JinpingVladimir Putin

Books

Rebellion: How Anti-Liberalism Is Tearing America Apart Againby Bob Kagan

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The AtlanticBrookings InstitutionThe Bulwark

Topics

Foreign PolicyGeopoliticsLong Form JournalismMiddle EastUs Politics

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