
Former U.S. Secretary of the Interior Ken Salazar joins the show for a wide-ranging conversation that quickly turns to life under Trump — the crew and Salazar touch on immigration crackdowns, tariffs on wildfire-stricken countries, and how the sheer volume of Trump-era news drowns out everything else that matters, public lands and conservation included. From there it gets personal: Salazar talks about his debut book and swaps old stories with Tim about pickup basketball games at the Department of the Interior — including the time he tried to recruit Reggie Love and had to be talked into building Interior's first digital program back when he could barely turn on an iPad. Go to https://www.quince.com/findout for free shipping on your order and 365-day returns Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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