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by Chandler Withington
The Inward Nine is a podcast for those looking to discover the best version of themselves. On The Inward Nine we will learn from a range of people in the game of golf as we share our journeys, experiences, successes and failures, lessons learned and advice for the next generation. But we are not here just to talk about success in the workplace. We are here to talk about who we are as people and how we succeed at the game of life. Chandler Withington is a PGA Member of nearly 20 years and has worked in the game of golf for over 30 years. Chandler is the retired head golf professional from Hazeltine National Golf Club (2012 - 2021). Prior to Hazeltine, Chandler was an assistant golf professional at Merion Golf Club (PA) and Seminole Golf Club (FL). Over the last three years, Chandler has become a licensed artist for the United States Golf Association and PGA of America. Chandler's personal mission statement is to have a positive impact on the lives of those around him.
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If I asked you to list your strengths and weaknesses, could you do it? We can't be good at everything of course, but do we really know what we are good at and what we are not? Our guest today knows her strengths and has been utilizing them at one of the south's up and coming golf clubs. Last week, we got to hear from the founder of Old Barnwell, Nick Schreiber, who helped us understand how the club came to be. This week, we will spend time with one of his first and most important hires to deliver its mission. Our guest today is their Director of Golf, Kitty Nicastro. In our time together with Kitty we will discuss: Her path to Old Barnwell, which didn't include any formal interviews. Kitty is living and breathing proof that we are interviewing for our dream jobs each day. Kitty will talk about how doors began to open through her network, eventually leading her to Aiken, South Carolina. Establishing a culture and a feeling comes through the people you hire. Kitty will talk about some of her team members and how she found them. When it comes to finding people. Building a caddie program at any new club is a big undertaking. Kitty will share on the unique approach the club took to find young caddies, a program which has come to thrive and produce a growing number of Evans Scholars. There is more than just finding people. It is seeing who they are and what is going on in their lives and understanding how we can help. Kitty shares about one of Old Barnwell's recent Evans Scholar recipients and how her time as a caddie has changed the trajectory of ther life. Most women in the golf industry pursue paths in becoming an instructor, merchandiser or club manager. Kitty will talk about the personality trait she feels not only got her to the top in becoming a director of golf, but one that makes others want to be around her. Kitty Nicastro is a long way from her home in Wisconsin, a reminder that the winds of change and direction in our lives will eventually blow. When they do, we may well wake up one day and realize we aren't in Kansas anymore.
Have you ever felt like your life has hit a dead end? Perhaps the mountain you have been climbing has gotten too steep, but you also don't want to call it quits and head back down? Our guest today has been there. The great news is there is a way forward, but it usually doesn't come without accepting help from those who care about you. By now, many have heard about the wonderful new golf course in Aiken, South Carolina known as Old Barnwell. But you may not know the story of how it all came to be or of the life of the person behind its origin and mission. Today we get to spend time with the founder of Old Barnwell, Nick Schreiber. Ahead in our discussion with Nick, we will discuss: The word failure. What it really means, how we can accept, learn and grow from it. Our pride. It usually stands in the way of moving forward. From the time we learned to talk, our mindset is I can do it on my own. Nick shares with us a powerful moment when he had to swallow his pride and accept a helping hand. Patience. We tend to think about how this word relates to us having to wait on something or someone, but rarely do we stop to consider how patient others are being with us. Nick will talk about the impact of receiving grace, forgiveness and patience from those closest to him. Recovery. Whenever we turn a corner in our lives there will stand the inevitable question – ok, what now? Listen as Nick talks about the early vision and mission for what eventually became Old Barnwell. There is a feeling each of us get whenever we visit a golf club. Nick shares about the feeling he hopes people experience when they visit Old Barnwell and on how he began finding the right people to help him accomplish that feeling. Freedom. It tends to be a word we take for granted at times or don't experience in our own lives at times. There are voices inside our heads at times, lies we tell ourselves and others. Listen as Nick shares where he feels true personal freedom comes from. To connect with Chandler: Instagram @ theinwardninepodcast Email: podcast@archive22.com Music Credits: Opening: 'Rocket' by Smashing Pumpkins <span style= "font-size: 12.0pt; line-height: 115%; font-family: 'Aptos',sans-serif; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-font-family: Aptos; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; ms
Have any of you looked well into the future and when you saw the picture of what your life might look like, you didn't like what you saw? Ahead on today's episode, we get to spend time with someone who felt that way and immediately began to plot a new course, one rooted in the inspiration he felt from a gift he received as a child. He has been using his words to take us all on a ride ever since. Today we are spending time with golf journalist and founder of his own newsletter, Normal Sport. He is the very witty and well spoken Kyle Porter. Ahead in this conversation with Kyle, we will discuss: The meaning of the word normalcy, and how Kyle began to see just how un normal the sport of golf is, leading to his unique perspective and writing style. There is a danger is making your work or chasing success your idol. Kyle will unpack for us why he sees his writing as what he does, but not who he is. When it comes to work, is there a way we can bring meaning to the lives of those around us through it? Kyle shares with us his personal mission statement and how he using his work to help him accomplish it. Life is fragile. We hear people say this all the time, but very few of us ever experience how true it really is. Kyle will share with us about the days following a painful loss and the statement someone made which cemented his own view of the world. Kyle is one of the best and most insightful writers on the Ryder Cup I know. I decided to play the role of genie and I gave Kyle 3 wishes for the future of our favorite event. Spoiler alert, I sincerely hope all his wishes come true in the days ahead. There is a great big world out there. Sometimes we just want to fly high up in the sky, look down and see it all. But first, we have to learn to fly. To connect with Chandler: Follow on Instagram @theinwardninepodcast.com Email: podcast@archive22.com Music Credits: Opening: 'Learning to Fly' by Tom Petty Interlude: 'Old Friends' by Ben Rector <span st
Have any of you ever been in a position where your job might be eliminated unless you can come up with a solution? Nearly 20 years ago today's guest could see the end of his job in sight, but rather than just roll over and accept his fate, he and a friend got creative. What these two produced wasn't an overnight success. Over a stretch of time they would grow, then shrink all while constantly adapting and testing ideas. In the end, what came from it all was a reimagined way of introducing junior golfers to playing the game golf. Today's we get to learn about how this approach called Operation 36 came to be with Co Founder Ryan Dailey. In our time together with Ryan we will discuss: The feedback loop. Whenever someone has an idea, there will be multiple rounds of trial and error, followed by feedback, followed by adjustments to the idea and then the loop begins all over again. Ryan will walk us through these stages, all the way to landing on the moon with their approach to Operation 36. Whenever a junior is introduced to the game of golf, of course we hope they fall in love with the game and play it for a lifetime. But there is a greater purpose to how Ryan and Operation 36 engage their students. Listen as Ryan shares the question he asks junior golfers to get them thinking and seeing the bigger picture. If you ever felt overwhelmed, the list of to dos is too long, too big.. it can't be done. Ryan shares his mindset and approach to when he felt this way. It's a little shift, but it can make a world of difference. Have you ever felt alone? If so, how did you feel? Did you feel comfortable or uncomfortable? Ryan will share about a year in his teenage life in a new place, one where he didn't know anyone. It was this year that would prepare Ryan for so much of life and reminds us that being alone isn't a death sentence, but rather an opportunity if we choose to see it that way. So often, whenever we ask my things are the way they are, we are told - That's just the way it is. Thankfully, Ryan didn't accept status quo. He was willing to take a conventional model and turn it upside down. Junior golfers who have come through Operation 36 have been benefiting ever since. To connect with Chandler: Follow on Instagram @theinwardninepodcast Email: chandler@archive22.com Music Credits: Opening: 'The Way It Is' by Bruce Hornsby Interlude: 'Old Friends' by Ben Rector Closing: 'Almost Home' by Ben Rector
Have any of you ever had an interest or been encouraged by someone else to run for a position within your Section of the PGA? Or, perhaps it wasn't a volunteer position. Maybe it was a job that was a reach for you. Regardless, you had to put yourself out there and get people to vote for you. And how did that make you feel? Excited, anxious or all of the above? Today's guest has successfully run for Secretary of the Carolinas Section and this fall she is setting her sights on becoming the next Secretary of the PGA of America. Our guest today is Paige Cribb, who along with being a past President of the Carolinas Section has also served as the Director of Student Support at the Coastal Carolina University PGM Program. In our conversation with Paige, we will discuss: The lives of her students at Coastal Carolina. What are the hopes and dreams of the next generation? Paige will share a noticeable difference in the students of today from those of 10+ years ago so that we can better understand the obstacles these people are facing. Years ago, Paige received an invitation and encouragement to run for a seat on the Carolina's Section Board of Governors and is now running for a seat on the National Board. Listen as Paige talks about her hopes, mission and vision for the future of our Association. There are key people associated with every Section of the PGA. Listen to whom Paige feels can be the most impactful people in improving the lives of PGA Professionals and how we all can begin to work with these people to get to where we want to go. I was fired. I got divorced. I was convicted. All these outcomes can feel like the end of the road. Paige opens up with us about a pivotal moment in her life and career and how it helped shaped a new path for her and one she is thriving in. Accountability and taking ownership. It all sounds great on paper until the time comes when we must do it ourselves. Paige and I will talk about times of failure and the most crucial moment that comes directly after it. Per usual, the game of golf shapes us in ways we don't always recognize in the moment. But later in life when we turn around and look at how far we have come, we can see it more cleary. Today's conversation is one of those moments, as Paige reflects and also looks ahead with great anticipation. To connect: Follow on Instagram @theinwardninepodcast Email: podcast@archive22.com Music Credits: Opening: 'Coming Home' by Keith Urban Interlude: 'Old Friends' by Ben Rector Closing: 'Almost Home' by Ben Rector
Have any of you ever had someone ask you for career advice? If so, what advice did you give them? I got a note from a listener a few weeks ago, asking me for some advice. I didn't want to just give the person a quick answer without giving it serious thought. Anyone can tell you not to do drugs. Rather than typing out a long email reply, I asked the listener if he would mind if I dedicated an episode to answering his question and that is what I will attempt to do in our time together today. Look, I may never get called to give a commencement speech at Harvard, but it doesn't mean I haven't learned a few lessons that I can pass along to each of you. I don't have all the answers. No one does. So, let's figure this all out together. I will do my very best to share some of my discoveries and advice that I give not just to total strangers, but to my one children. To connect with Chandler: Follow on Instagram @theinwardninepodcast Email: podcast@archive22.com Music Credits: Opening: 'Homegrown' by Zac Brown Band
Have any of you ever felt you had life all figured out? Have you ever felt all your master plans were falling into place and then suddenly had it all fall apart, leaving you feeling hopeless? You can't see it, but my hand is up in the air, the hand of our guest is as well and perhaps so is yours. The reality is life doesn't always go as we plan it, but that doesn't mean things won't turn out better than we ever imagined. It surely has for this week's guest. She is the wonderful, hospitable and very approachable Kristen Lacount, the General Manager at The Country Club in Brookline, Massachusetts. Ahead in our time with Kristen, we will discuss: What it was like to grow up as the 4th generation within her family to work at The Country Club and how her upbringing shaped her own dreams and aspirations. On chasing those dreams, her path seemed so clear. She had it all figured out until her plan vanished seemingly overnight. Listen as Kristen shares the advice she received from her father, advice which would help her discover an entirely new path. Similar to a our recent guest Jason Prendergast, Kristen had an ah ha moment with a club member. One which allowed her to begin seeing the people at the club in a new way, a way which allowed her to understand how different and unique each person is, a perspective which has served her well ever since. We will talk about the relationship between a general manager and the golf professional. Kristen will share what she believes is the foundation to a healthy relationship between these two key figure heads at any club and what each of us can do to foster this key relationship at our own clubs. Employee morale. We know its important, but how much are clubs willing to invest in it. I got to see a unique behind the scenes part of the Country Club during a recent visit. Kristen will talk about how it all came to be and why it matters so much to their everyday operation. Finally, among the many things we talk about, we take a step off the property at Brookline to talk about how the Club is impacting their surrounding community. It is a shift in perspective, a reminder of just how fortunate so many of us truly are and how showing up for those who need help can make such a world of difference. To follow or connect with Chandler: Follow on Instagram @theinwardninepodcast Email: podcast@archive22.com Music Credits: <span style= "font-size: 12.0pt; line-height: 115%; font-family: 'Aptos',sans-serif; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-font-family: Aptos; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-theme-font: minor-bidi; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-la
Have any of you ever had someone ask you a question that you knew you should have an answer for, but when asked, you began to realize you hadn't ever given it much thought? Our guest today is known as one of the most successful hockey players to have ever pulled on a sweater – A Stanley Cup, 2 gold medals, a hart trophy as the league MVP, inducted into the hockey hall of fame and listed on the top 100 hockey players of all time list, yet his early days in the League weren't a highlight reel. Expectations were high for the #2 overall pick in the 1993 entry draft, but his performance wasn't meeting those expectations. Our guest today is Chris Pronger, one of the most feared and physical defensemen of his time, and he is here to help you understand how we turned a corner in his career and life and how you can do the same.. and it all starts with one simple question. Ahead in our conversation with Chris: We talk so often on this podcast about not playing safe. Chris will share about the unconventional path he took to the NHL. One where he was willing to bet on himself and his ability. Have you ever felt like you knew all there was to know, only to learn later you still had so much to learn? Once drafted and in the NHL, Chris was far from consistent. Listen to the two word response Chris would give to his veteran mentor, a response Chris would later learn was short sighted and indicative of why he was struggling. Rock Bottom. It is a place none of us wants to find ourselves. Chris will share about his experience with rock bottom and on the question he was asked that helped him begin to find a way out of it. Perspective. It can come quickly and when we least expect it. Chris will share about a time he found himself unconscious on the ice after taking a slap shot directly to the heart.. one that stopped beating for nearly 30 seconds. Ownership is something we must choose on a daily basis. Chris talks about a costly decision he made without consulting those around him, how we needed to own his mistake and how you can take ownership of your own actions and decisions. The road to the top of the mountain is never straight. It is full of expected turns, detours and setbacks.. but the show must always go on. To connect with Chandler: Follow or DM on Instagram @theinwardninepodcast Email: podcast@archive22.com Music Credits: Opening: 'The Show Must Go On' by Queen: Interlude: 'Under Pressure' by Queen Closing: 'Almost Home' by Ben Rector
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The Inward Nine is a podcast for those looking to discover the best version of themselves. On The Inward Nine we will learn from a range of people in the game of golf as we share our journeys, experiences, successes and failures, lessons learned and advice for the next generation. But we are not here just to talk about success in the workplace. We are here to talk about who we are as people and how we succeed at the game of life. Chandler Withington is a PGA Member of nearly 20 years and has worked in the game of golf for over 30 years. Chandler is the retired head golf professional from Hazeltine National Golf Club (2012 - 2021). Prior to Hazeltine, Chandler was an assistant golf professional at Merion Golf Club (PA) and Seminole Golf Club (FL). Over the last three years, Chandler has become a licensed artist for the United States Golf Association and PGA of America. Chandler's personal mission statement is to have a positive impact on the lives of those around him.
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