Everyone agrees that street homelessness is a problem to solve. But that’s where the agreement ends. Today, we explore the two camps that think they’ve found an answer — one that argues for more resources and the other that argues for more rule of law. THIS EPISODE FEATURES: Iain De Jong, Stephen Eide, Estela Lopez, Mark Horvath, Traci Park LINKS: Louis C.K. bit Iain De Jong's company Iain De Jong’s book, The Book on Ending Homelessness A few studies on Housing First The Daily Show segment on Housing First Stephen Eide’s critique of Housing First 2019 progress report on Proposition HHH Audit on CA homelessness spending Oral argument in City of Grants Pass v. Johnson City of Grants Pass v. Johnson Supreme Court opinion Spencer Pratt’s X account Los Angeles mayoral primary debate, May 6, 2026 Donald Trump 2023 video about the homeless Mark Horvath’s organization Invisible People YouTube channel Traci Park’s website Los Angeles City Council meeting, August 18, 2026 For this series we also read, and recommend, the following books: Homelessness in America: The History and Tragedy of an Intractable Social Problem by Stephen Eide, Reckoning with Homelessness by Kim Hopper, The Hobo: The Sociology of the Homeless Man by Nels Anderson, and Down and Out, on the Road: The Homeless in American History by Kenneth L. Kusmer. CREDITS: This story was reported by Emma Pettit and produced by Andy Mills, Ethan Mannello, Matthew Boll, and Simon Adler. It was mixed by Emma Munger. Music for this episod was composed by Cobey Bienert and Simon Adler. Artwork for this episode is by Jacob Boll. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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