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by MW Welman and Harry Jones
Blending North with South, Pretoria with Cape Trump, data-driven MW Welman spars each week with globetrotting Harry Jones on Saffa-related themes to understand the whole world of rugby as it is and will become: making a plan but being ready to throw it all out the window.
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- Today58 min
Episode 193: Why Dave Rennie's "CPR" Gamble Won't Survive Four Tests Against The Boks | Lekker Rugby Pod
Is Dave Rennie asking too much of his All Blacks before a ball's even been kicked in South Africa?Harry Jones and MW Welman dig into Harry's own CPR index, combined carries, passes and rucks, and what it's showing about Rennie's opening rounds. New Zealand's CPR under Rennie is the highest on record for an All Blacks side, well past Steve Hansen's peak teams and Scott Robertson's numbers under Razor. Harry thinks that pace was built for opponents who aren't the Springboks.Harry walks through the historical CPR data, from the 2015 semi-final to Twickenham 2019 to last year's World Cup final, and explains why more carries, passes and rucks doesn't automatically mean a better system. MW pushes back with the case for Rennie's game plan.In this episode:- What CPR actually measures, and why coaches and analysts have started using it- Why Rennie's 581 CPR is unprecedented for an All Blacks side- How much the series hinges on Cam Roigard staying fit- Why Ardie Savea and the pack face a different kind of physical test in South Africa
- Today52 min
Episode 192: Why the Springboks vs All Blacks Greatest Rivalry Tour Is Set to Be Brutal | Martin Devlin
How brutal will the Greatest Rivalry Tour with the Springboks and All Blacks series really get?Martin Devlin joins MW Welman and Harry Jones to break down New Zealand's Nations Championship form ahead of the All Blacks' first tour of South Africa in 30 years. This isn't just a form debrief. It's the opening bell for Ellis Park. Devlin explains where Dave Rennie's side has progressed, what still worries him about untested combinations, and why this rivalry now outweighs the British and Irish Lions series. Harry pushes back with his own concerns about Rassie Erasmus's rotation gamble and whether the Springboks have had their strongest team on the field together at all.In this episode:- Devlin's verdict on what kind of team the All Blacks have become- Whether Rassie's rotation policy leaves the Boks undercooked for the first test- The scrum battle, and why it opens the real fight- The new All Blacks combinations Devlin is watching closest before Ellis ParkIf you enjoy the show, the best thing you can do is LIKE, SUBSCRIBE, and hit the BELL so you never miss an episode.
- 1 weeks ago51 min
Episode 191: Understanding How the All Blacks and Boks Are Pulling Away From the Rest
What if the gap between the All Blacks, the Springboks and the rest of world rugby is bigger than anyone realised?Harry Jones has built something new for the pod: CPR, a specific, simple, brutal statistic that tracks how much each team carries, passes and rucks the ball in attack. Run it across the Nations Championship so far and the picture is stark. New Zealand and South Africa sit at opposite ends of the scale, but both are miles ahead of everyone chasing them.In this episode:- Harry unveils the CPR index and walks through how it's calculated- Why the All Blacks build almost double the rucks of the Springboks- How the All Blacks and Springboks each embody a completely different way to attack- What the numbers mean for selection and conditioning heading into 2027MW and Harry dig into what the numbers actually show, and where the theory still needs work.
- 2 weeks ago49 min
Episode 190: Rooting Against Your Own Side? Really? | Lekker Rugby Pod
Who thought up this strange competition? Did anybody even think it through?Harry Jones sits down with rugby content creator Riaan Louw to pull apart the Nations Championship, rugby's newest and strangest, competition. Not just the idea, but the logic underneath it, a finals ladder that quietly turns southern hemisphere fans into short-term allies of the north. Which is not what they wanted!In this episode:- Why the Nations Championship's finals seeding forces fans to root against their own hemisphere rivals- What's actually working, and what isn't, in the tournament's branding, stats, and graphics- Why Ireland avoided travelling to Japan and what problems that could cause going forward- Riaan's wider verdict on rugby's branding problem, from Ellis Park to Loftus VersfeldIf you enjoy the show, the best thing you can do is LIKE, SUBSCRIBE, and hit the BELL so you never miss an episode.
- 2 weeks ago59 min
Episode 189: The Kicking Spectrum: Rassie's Springboks vs Rennie's All Blacks
Is there actually a right way to win test rugby, or is the game splitting into two irreconcilable philosophies?The Lekker Rugby Pod is back, and this one goes deep. MW and Harry break down the spectrum that's quietly reshaping test rugby, with South Africa anchoring one extreme and New Zealand the other, and every other top nation picking a side to copy.In this episode:- The kicking spectrum explained, and why South Africa's attacking kick numbers are unlike anything else in the game- Why real momentum, the kind sports science actually measures, might be disappearing from rugby- A detailed breakdown of the pillar and post system, and exactly how Scotland's line broke through it- Big moments over the slow grind: why scraps are winning more matches than scrums nowHarry and MW also get into Rassie Erasmus's thinking on legacy and succession, the shape of the back line in transition rugby, and whether Paul de Villiers's size is a limiting factor or an asset at test level.
- Jun 28, 20261h 1m
Episode 188: Four URC finals. Four losses. What being on the Bulls' bench showed Harry Jones | Lekker Rugby Pod
The Bulls have now lost four URC finals in five seasons. Harry Jones was embedded on their bench at Croke Park when the latest chance slipped away.What he witnessed from three meters away tells a story the scoreboard does not. A stunned bench. A Leinster coaching staff burning calories delivering information in real time. Eight Springbok calibre players sitting in silence with no shared framework for what was unfolding in front of them. And in the aftermath, the image Jones cannot shake: Cameron Hanekom, alone under the posts, staring at all of it.This is not a post-match reaction. It is a first-hand account of what a final looks like from the inside, and what it might mean for the Bulls until they solve it.
- Jun 24, 202655 min
Episode 187: Why Rassie Is Fast-Tracking a New Generation of Springboks | Jon Cardinelli
A year out from Australia 2027, Rassie Erasmus is fast-tracking players most coaches would wait on. Riley Norton at 21. Paul de Villiers stacking man-of-the-match awards at the Stormers. A bomb squad being rebuilt from scratch. The Nations Championship squad is not a holding pattern. It is a blueprint.Jon Cardinelli, one of SA rugby's sharpest analysts, joins Harry Jones on The Lekker Rugby Pod to decode what this next wave of Springboks tells us about 2027.In this episode:Why Riley Norton and Paul de Villiers are being fast-tracked ahead of the All Blacks seriesThe evolution of the bomb squad and why the second hooker might not be a hookerThe prop selections that break every convention about age and experienceElrigh Louw's omission and the silence Rassie left around itRecorded before Rassie's Nations Championship press conference. Some of what Jon and Harry decoded here, Rassie confirmed later. The Elrigh question, he didn't touch.If you enjoy the show, the best thing you can do is LIKE, SUBSCRIBE, and hit the BELL so you never miss an episode.On this episode of The Lekker Rugby Pod, MW Welman and Harry Jones are joined by rugby journalist Jon Cardinelli.
- Jun 19, 202637 min
Episode 186: URC Final LIVE Preview with Harry Jones | Lekker Rugby Pod
Can the Bulls pull off the upset of the year in Dublin on Friday?With the URC Final days away, MW Welman and Harry Jones go live to break down the Leinster and Bulls team announcements and make the case for why this final might not be the foregone conclusion many expect. The Bulls' front row is the story, and Leinster know it.In this episode:Why the Bulls' pack could be Leinster's worst nightmare in DublinAndrew Porter's withdrawal and what it signals ahead of the finalThe team announcements broken down and what they revealHarry Jones heads behind the scenes with the Bulls on match day Friday
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Blending North with South, Pretoria with Cape Trump, data-driven MW Welman spars each week with globetrotting Harry Jones on Saffa-related themes to understand the whole world of rugby as it is and will become: making a plan but being ready to throw it all out the window.
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