
It's developer conference season, and one of the themes so far has been big swings at AI apps. We've seen Gemini Spark, Microsoft Scout, and so many other attempts to figure out what people, and companies, actually want their AI to do. Nilay and David discuss their experiences with the apps, before turning to Nvidia CEO Jensen Huang's vision for the AI-filled laptop of the future. Finally, in the lightning round, it's time for the Hype Desk, Brendan Carr is a Dummy, a deeply dumb Meta hack, and the future of a favorite VR game. Further reading: Testing Google’s Gemini Spark AI agent: it’s incredible, and creepy Gemini’s new AI agent is about as good as Google’s demo Microsoft Scout is a new AI personal assistant built on OpenClaw Microsoft’s Project Solara is an OS for AI agent gadgets As AI gets better, it reveals an empty promise Let us filter AI slop, you cowards Microsoft and OpenAI broke up — now they’re ready to fight These are the first Nvidia RTX Spark laptops This is the Microsoft Surface Laptop Ultra with Nvidia RTX Spark A first look at Microsoft’s Surface Laptop Ultra and Surface Dev Box Nvidia is already planning N2X and N3X chips — the goal is the Star Trek computer This could be Windows’ M1 moment — but expect it to cost a ton Computex 2026: All the news and announcements Meta’s own AI was exploited to hijack Instagram accounts Apple’s strategy for smart glasses is the same as for smart watches It sure seems like the Vision Pro isn’t getting upgraded for a while — if ever. Subscribe to The Verge for unlimited access to theverge.com, subscriber-exclusive newsletters, and our ad-free podcast feed.We love hearing from you! Email your questions and thoughts to vergecast@theverge.com or call us at 866-VERGE11. (Timestamps are approximate.) 00:01:00 Intro 00:03:00 New Verge Merch Drop 00:09:00 Gemini Spark Test Drive 00:13:00 Privacy Tradeoffs Debate 00:21:00 Software Brain Pushback 00:36:00 Jensen Huang Computer Future 00:39:00 Microsoft Build Reality Check 00:41:00 Nvidia Spark Recall 00:42:00 Microsoft Badge Agents 00:54:00 Escaping Apple Tax 00:57:00 Wearables Walled Gardens 01:05:00 Hype Desk 01:06:00 Bond Game Streaming 01:09:00 Summer Games Fest 01:11:00 State of Play Highlights 01:11:00 God of War 01:14:00 Wolverine Gore Talk 01:15:00 Widows Bay 01:17:00 Lightning Round 01:17:00 Brendan Carr is a Dummy 01:26:00 Apple Glasses Rumors 01:36:00 Privacy Backlash Risk 01:38:00 Meta AI Hack Fiasco 01:43:00 Supernatural Returns 01:47:00 Wrap and Next Week Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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