Vic sits down with Grammy-winning singer-songwriter Durand Bernarr to talk about the cost of being loved by the public, why Durand is letting go of labels and the queer genius behind Black church music. The two also perform their collaboration "Homesick," off Durand's album Bernarr. Follow @vicmensa · @durandbernarr Guest: Durand Bernarr (00:00) Cold open and live performance (04:26) Grateful and still unhappy: fame and personal space (09:41) Not hating, just not your target audience (13:35) Mango Butter and being everything at once (16:42) Mr. Brady and homophobia in the Black community (20:28) Ghana and the colonizer in the mind (22:29) The queer genius of the Black church (24:58) Prince, D'Angelo, Michael and the R&B lean (30:29) Sugar Family, three personalities and 20 years in (37:46) Real success and asking before you hug Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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