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Why the US Must Engage China on AI Safety Before It’s ‘Game Over’

May 13, 2026·35 min
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Sebastian Mallaby of the Council on Foreign Relations and author of The Infinity Machine: Demis Hassabis, DeepMind and the Quest for Superintelligence joins host Stephanie Flanders. He says Chinese AI is closing the gap—and that means Washington can’t afford to ignore safety talks.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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