Episode 29: Heather Sanders on Marriage, Motherhood & Choosing Yourself

Heather Sanders joins Joy Taylor for an honest conversation about growing up online, navigating a long-term relationship in public, postpartum depression, motherhood, business, and learning to choose yourself. Together they explore why people feel entitled to judge relationships, what partnership really means, and why personal growth often requires giving yourself grace. 00:00 – Welcome Heather Sanders to the show 00:38 – "That person is dead": growing up publicly 04:13 – The public relationship "clock" theory 08:02 – Engaged twice, still not married and here's why 11:40 – Building a partnership vs. needing a piece of paper 17:04 – "Keep that pussy inside": the streets aren't for everybody 20:03 – What she's learned about herself as a woman at 36 25:15 – Postpartum shame and the pressure on women 31:39 – Her therapy journey and finding the right fit 38:15 – Entrepreneur advice: consistency over everything 39:42 – Getting audited: "I don't even know where the money went" 43:44 – Why she stepped back from being an influencer 45:16 – Getting backlash for sharing the hard stuff 46:17 – The first time she cried on the internet 52:47 – Grieving old versions of herself 57:56 – "You have to choose that person every day" 1:00:59 – The stat about men leaving terminally ill partners 1:02:19 – Her favorite part of being married 1:05:20 – Throwback pictures and purple contacts 1:08:00 – Tattoo confessions: King Trelll, Terrell's face tattoo 1:06:36 – The contact lens story that scared everyoneSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.