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by Michael Bungay Stanier | Modern Change Management Practitioner
Change management is harder than ever. Organizations face more complexity, more uncertainty, and more pressure to deliver successful change than at any point in recent memory. Most leaders respond by pushing harder. Others search for the latest model, framework, or methodology and hope the tool will solve the problem. Neither guarantees change adoption. Successful change happens when people are ready, stakeholders are engaged, leaders show up effectively, and change approaches fit the reality of the work. That's what Change Signal explores. Michael Bungay Stanier, author of The Coaching Habit and a student of organizational change for more than thirty years, talks with leading thinkers, experienced practitioners, and senior leaders to uncover what works, what doesn't, and what modern change management looks like in practice. Each episode explores the challenges behind leading successful change, building change readiness, strengthening stakeholder engagement, improving change adoption, applying change frameworks, refining change methodology, and measuring change effectiveness. Whether you're leading a change project, supporting organizational change, or helping teams navigate uncertainty, you'll find practical ideas, tested approaches, and evidence-based insights you can put to work immediately. The goal is simple: help change practitioners and change leaders make change more successful, more sustainable, and less overwhelming. Popular Episode Topics Include: Change Management, Modern Change Management, Leading Change, Change Adoption, Adoption Strategy, Change Readiness, Organizational Readiness, Stakeholder Engagement, Stakeholder Buy-In, Executive Sponsorship, Change Methodology, Change Frameworks, Change Management Frameworks, Change Leadership, Change Measurement, Measuring Change Success, Change Effectiveness, Change Projects, Change Planning, Change Outcomes
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- 5 days ago37 min
Final Can Less Persuasion Create More Change?| Phill Agnew | Modern Change Management & Leading Change
Here are three questions this Change Signal conversation asks: Are you designing behaviour, or just explaining the change? Where does resistance actually come from? What small nudge might make the right action easier? In this episode, I talk with Phill Agnew, host of the marketing podcast Nudge, about what change leaders can learn from behavioural science — and why people are so much less rational than our change plans assume. We get into choice overload, loss aversion, social proof, defaults, friction, and reactance — the very human pushback that happens when people feel their autonomy is being squeezed. Phill brings terrific stories and studies, from jam counters to organ donation to bus stops in France, all pointing to a useful truth: if you want people to change, don’t just make the case harder. Design the conditions better. For senior leaders working on transformation, change management, or culture change, this is a practical conversation about influence without the ick. Less “roll it out and hope.” More “make it easier, wiser, and more human to move.” Change Signal. Cut through the blather, the BS, and the noise to find the good stuff that works in change. If you’re a transformational leader seeking modern change mastery, you’re in exactly the right place. *** WHEN YOU’RE READY 🎧 A new episode every week (and sometimes two!) The Change Signal newsletter. Short, practical, weekly *** CONNECT 💼Connect on LinkedIn *** SAY THANKS 💜Leave a review on Apple Podcasts 💚Leave a review on Spotify
- 1 weeks ago31 min
Is Your Change Program a Chocolate Teapot? | Aidan McCullen | Modern Change Management & Leading Change
Here’s the revised version with an opening sentence and the three questions bulleted. This Change Signal conversation with Aidan McCullen asks three practical questions for anyone leading change in a large organization: What if change isn’t an event? Where does power really live? Who needs to win before transformation can move? Aidan McCullen, host of The Innovation Show and author of Undisruptable, joins me to talk about what it really takes to lead change when reinvention is no longer occasional but permanent. Aidan brings a useful dose of realism to change management, transformation, and innovation. He argues that the “change muscle” has atrophied, partly because many organizations still treat change like a project with a finish line rather than a capability to build. We get into the unglamorous but essential work of change leadership: mapping power, understanding resisters, creating small wins, giving other people credit, and getting enough air cover to survive the corporate maze. There’s also a memorable warning about chasing “chocolate teapots” — the easy wins that look like progress but don’t really move the dial. For senior leaders responsible for transformation, this is a conversation about stamina, politics, allies, and the quiet discipline of making change real. Change Signal. Cut through the blather, the BS, and the noise to find the good stuff that works in change. If you’re a transformational leader seeking modern change mastery, you’re in exactly the right place. *** WHEN YOU’RE READY 🎧 A new episode every week (and sometimes two!) The Change Signal newsletter. Short, practical, weekly *** CONNECT 💼Connect on LinkedIn *** SAY THANKS 💜Leave a review on Apple Podcasts 💚Leave a review on Spotify
- 2 weeks ago26 min
Your Change Strategy Isn't a Strategy| Alex M H Smith | Modern Change Management & Leading Change
This Change Signal conversation with Alex M H Smith asks three sharp questions: What unique value does your change work create? Who actually cares about it? What are you brave enough to remove? Alex is the author of No Bullsh*t Strategy, and he brings a gloriously skeptical eye to the foggy world of strategy, change management, and transformation. His central challenge is simple: most strategy isn’t strategy at all — it’s goals, optimization, or a vague wish wearing a business suit. We explore why internal change teams need to understand their own “unique value” to the business, why change needs to be sold through a story people actually care about, and why exhausted organizations may need less addition and more sacrifice. There’s also a useful poke at inclusive decision-making, charisma, mischief, and the problem of trying to lead change in an era when everyone is already overwhelmed. If you’re leading transformation inside a large organization, this one may sharpen your thinking — and perhaps your courage. Change Signal. Cut through the blather, the BS, and the noise to find the good stuff that works in change. If you’re a transformational leader seeking modern change mastery, you’re in exactly the right place. *** WHEN YOU’RE READY 🎧 A new episode every week (and sometimes two!) The Change Signal newsletter. Short, practical, weekly *** CONNECT 💼Connect on LinkedIn *** SAY THANKS 💜Leave a review on Apple Podcasts 💚Leave a review on Spotify
- 3 weeks ago26 min
Should Change Teams Disappear? | Clay Parker Jones | Modern Change Management & Leading Change
Here are three questions from this Change Signal conversation: What if resistance is right? Where does change spread without permission? How close is your transformation work to customers and money? In this episode, I talk with Clay Parker Jones, author of Hidden Patterns: A Playbook for More Human Workplaces, about why change management often gets stuck — and what might actually help. Clay’s work is built around the idea of patterns: small, repeatable moves that can change how people work without requiring you to blow up the org chart. We talk about why old patterns are so seductive, how new ones spread, and why the geeks, nerds, and weird ones may be your best allies. We also get into resistance — not as ignorance or stubbornness, but as useful information about what people are protecting. And Clay makes a sharp case that change leaders need to get closer to customer contact, business outcomes, and the places where the organization can feel the impact. Change Signal is where transformational change leaders seek and find modern change wisdom. Change Signal. Cut through the blather, the BS, and the noise to find the good stuff that works in change. If you’re a transformational leader seeking modern change mastery, you’re in exactly the right place. *** WHEN YOU’RE READY 🎧 A new episode every week (and sometimes two!) The Change Signal newsletter. Short, practical, weekly *** CONNECT 💼Connect on LinkedIn *** SAY THANKS 💜Leave a review on Apple Podcasts 💚Leave a review on Spotify
- Sep 2, 202628 min
How Change Really Travels | Greg Satell | Modern Change Management & Leading Change
Here are three questions from this Change Signal conversation with Greg Satell: What if change doesn’t move through hierarchy at all? What if silos are not the problem, but part of the solution? What if trying to persuade people is actually a warning sign? In this episode, I talk with Greg Satell about change management, transformation, and why large-scale change is less like a rollout and more like a cascade. Greg’s argument is wonderfully useful: change spreads through small groups, loosely connected, united by shared purpose. That means the job of a change leader is not to launch bigger, shout louder, or persuade harder — it’s to find where energy already exists, build one concrete success, and let peer networks do their work. We also dig into why shared purpose needs shared values underneath it, why resistance is often rational, and why identity is the hardest thing to ask people to change. For senior leaders navigating change fatigue, transformation overload, and the endless pressure to “go big,” this conversation offers a more practical, human, and network-smart way to begin. Change Signal. Cut through the blather, the BS, and the noise to find the good stuff that works in change. If you’re a transformational leader seeking modern change mastery, you’re in exactly the right place. *** WHEN YOU’RE READY 🎧 A new episode every week (and sometimes two!) The Change Signal newsletter. Short, practical, weekly *** CONNECT 💼Connect on LinkedIn *** SAY THANKS 💜Leave a review on Apple Podcasts 💚Leave a review on Spotify
- Aug 26, 202630 min
Why Stories Matter More| Jennifer Garvey Berger | Modern Change Management & Leading Change
Jennifer Garvey Berger’s three key insights: connectivity matters more than individual talent in complex systems; small experiments beat both over-planning and paralysis; and stories are legitimate measures of change before numbers shift. If you've ever had a change plan that hasn't quite gone according to plan (and honestly, who hasn't?), this conversation with Jennifer Garvey Berger will shift how you think about leading transformation. She's spent three decades figuring out what actually works when everything feels unpredictable and out of control. Jennifer challenges the "all-star team" approach most of us default to. Instead, she argues for building networks of diverse perspectives because you can't predict whose viewpoint will matter most until after the fact. She also makes the case for experiments so small they feel almost trivial — like fancy lunches that generated $10 million in revenue. The key is making them smaller than you think, more fun than traditional initiatives, and designed specifically for learning rather than guaranteed success. And here's something that might surprise you: Jennifer suggests that rumours and stories are often the first real indicators of change, long before your metrics show anything. In human systems, shifting narratives actually is real change. This isn't about lighting incense and appreciating each other's light within. It's practical wisdom for navigating complexity without losing your mind. Change Signal. Where ambitious leaders find modern change mastery. Cut through the blather, the BS, and the noise to find the good stuff that works. *** WHEN YOU’RE READY 🎧 A new episode every week (and sometimes two!) The Change Signal newsletter. Short, practical, weekly *** CONNECT 💼Connect on LinkedIn *** SAY THANKS 💜Leave a review on Apple Podcasts 💚Leave a review on Spotify
- Aug 19, 202627 min
Is Your Organization Change Allergic?| Anne Gotte | Modern Change Management & Leading Change
Three key insights from Anne Gotte: change management is as outdated as "personnel" organizations must diagnose their change allergies before attempting transformation; and leaders need to embrace clumsy imperfection while providing clear direction. Anne Gotte is SVP Global Talent & Organization Effectiveness at Mondelēz and she brings refreshing honesty to the messy reality of organizational transformation. She's worked at Bumble, Ecolab, and General Mills, collecting scars and wisdom along the way. This conversation challenges the traditional playbook. Anne argues that "decree change" — where executives design solutions in isolation, announce them broadly, then expect magic — as well and truly reached its expiration date. Instead, she advocates for building ongoing change capacity rather than managing episodic projects. Her approach starts with uncomfortable questions: Who are we today? What makes any change difficult for us? How do our systems contradict our change story? The discussion explores why change feels clumsy (spoiler: it's supposed to), how to honour uncertainty while providing clarity, and why slow can actually be fast. Anne's insights about getting comfortable being uncomfortable offer a different path forward for change leaders tired of pretending transformation should feel orderly and predictable. This is change leadership for grown-ups who've learned that the mess is actually the work. Change Signal. Cut through the blather, the BS, and the noise to find the good stuff that works in change and transformation. *** WHEN YOU’RE READY 🎧 A new episode every week (and sometimes two!) The Change Signal newsletter. Short, practical, weekly *** CONNECT 💼Connect on LinkedIn *** SAY THANKS 💜Leave a review on Apple Podcasts 💚Leave a review on Spotify
- Aug 12, 202635 min
Why You Build Belonging Before Belief| Hahrie Han| Modern Change Management & Leading Change
Here are three big insights that emerge from this Change Signal conversation with Hahrie Han: Are you creating value or just convenience?; Does belonging come before belief in your organization?; and Are you building agency or just compliance? Hahrie Han, political scientist at Johns Hopkins University and author of How Organizations Develop Activists and Undivided, has spent her career studying how people build power that lasts. She brings a sharp, human perspective on what drives genuine participation and why small, intentional acts often change systems more than sweeping plans. The conversation explores why engagement depends less on ease and more on meaning, how “radical belonging” can transform even divided communities, and how leaders can use small, safe failures to build confidence and agency across teams. You’ll also hear practical tools for turning involvement into influence — designing scaffolding that helps people learn from risk and own their results. If you’re leading transformation, culture, or change projects in a big organization, this conversation offers fresh, grounded insight into how participation turns into durable power. Change Signal. Cut through the blather, the BS, and the noise to find the good stuff that works in change. This is the podcast for transformational leaders seeking modern change mastery. *** WHEN YOU’RE READY 🎧 A new episode every week (and sometimes two!) The Change Signal newsletter. Short, practical, weekly *** CONNECT 💼Connect on LinkedIn *** SAY THANKS 💜Leave a review on Apple Podcasts 💚Leave a review on Spotify
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About Change Signal: Modern Change Management that Works
Change management is harder than ever. Organizations face more complexity, more uncertainty, and more pressure to deliver successful change than at any point in recent memory. Most leaders respond by pushing harder. Others search for the latest model, framework, or methodology and hope the tool will solve the problem. Neither guarantees change adoption. Successful change happens when people are ready, stakeholders are engaged, leaders show up effectively, and change approaches fit the reality of the work. That's what Change Signal explores. Michael Bungay Stanier, author of The Coaching Habit and a student of organizational change for more than thirty years, talks with leading thinkers, experienced practitioners, and senior leaders to uncover what works, what doesn't, and what modern change management looks like in practice. Each episode explores the challenges behind leading successful change, building change readiness, strengthening stakeholder engagement, improving change adoption, applying change frameworks, refining change methodology, and measuring change effectiveness. Whether you're leading a change project, supporting organizational change, or helping teams navigate uncertainty, you'll find practical ideas, tested approaches, and evidence-based insights you can put to work immediately. The goal is simple: help change practitioners and change leaders make change more successful, more sustainable, and less overwhelming. Popular Episode Topics Include: Change Management, Modern Change Management, Leading Change, Change Adoption, Adoption Strategy, Change Readiness, Organizational Readiness, Stakeholder Engagement, Stakeholder Buy-In, Executive Sponsorship, Change Methodology, Change Frameworks, Change Management Frameworks, Change Leadership, Change Measurement, Measuring Change Success, Change Effectiveness, Change Projects, Change Planning, Change Outcomes
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