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In this special series on Brené's new book, Strong Ground, Brené and special guest Adam Grant break down some of the big issues in the book and walk listeners through new research on what it means to be bold in the midst of unrelenting instability and complexity. The real fun is listening to them learn, unlearn, debate, and disagree.
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In this episode of The Curiosity Shop, Brené Brown and Adam Grant explore what happens when trust, vulnerability, grief, and performance collide. Using insights from the San Antonio Spurs and Gregg Popovich's leadership philosophy, they examine why caring deeply is an act of courage, how shame quietly undermines teams, families, and organizations, and how psychological safety fuels excellence. The conversation moves through ambition and rejection, miscarriage and loss, community, emotional intelligence and empathy, and the ways people show up for one another through life's hardest moments. This episode explores how strength and kindness are not opposites and why building cultures of trust may be one of the most important things we do. Victor Wembanyama on having Spurs legend David Robinson and Tim Duncan in the building - 2026, Yahoo Sports Armored Versus Daring Leadership, Part 1 of 2 - Brené Brown, 2021, Dare to Lead (Podcast) Victor Wembanyama Emotional After Spurs Advance to the NBA Finals - 2026, Bleacher Report Goals research summary - Gail Matthews, 2015, Dominican University of California Daring Greatly: How the Courage to Be Vulnerable Transforms the Way We Live, Love, Parent, and Lead - Brené Brown, 2012, Gotham Books Ring Theory Helps Us Bring Comfort In - Elena Sandler, 2025, Psychology Today Atlas of the Heart - Brené Brown, 2021 (Book) U.S. Surgeon General Vivek Murthy & Adam Grant on Loneliness - Murthy & Grant, Authors@Wharton, 2024, YouTube Andrew Garfield on grief and the loss of his mother – CBS, 2021, The Late Show with Stephen Colbert National Survey of Gun Policy - Center for Gun Violence Solutions, 2025, Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health Empathic Joy and the Empathy-Altruism Hypothesis - Batson et al, 1991, Journal of Personality and Social Psychology https://psycnet.apa.org/buy/1992-05357-001 Human empathy through the lens of social neuroscience - Decety & Lamm, 2006, The Scientific World Journal The Making of an American – Jacob Riis, 1901, Macmillan The Coach–Athlete Relationship Questionnaire (CART-Q) – Sophia Jowett, 2004, Scandinavian Journal of Medicine & Science in Sports Bad Is Stronger Than Good – Roy Baumeister, 2001, Review of General Psychology Scarred for the Rest of My Career? – Erica Carleton (with Julian Barling), 2016, Journal of Sport and Exercise Psychology The evolution of shame and its display - Landers & Sznycer, 2022, Evolutionary human sciences Moral Emotions and Moral Behavior – June Tangney, 2007, Annual Review of Psychology The Inside Story of the Ever-Changing Brain - Brené Brown and David Eagleman, 2020, Unlocking Us with Brene Brown Podcast Unlocking the Mysteries of our Brain - Chris Anderson with David Eagleman, 2022, The TED Interview Winning coaches’ locker room secret - Blanding on the research of Barry Staw, 2019, UC Berkeley Haas School of Business Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Brené Brown and Adam Grant explore the power and difficulty of paradoxes in life, leadership, and relationships, using personal stories, research, and spiritual insights to show how embracing contradiction leads to wisdom, connection, and growth.
Brené Brown and Adam Grant reflect on Brené’s 30 years of sobriety, her deep discomfort with cringe comedy like The Office, and the art of gracefully exiting conversations. The conversation reveals how vulnerability, connection, and emotional awareness shape identity and relationships.
Brené Brown and Adam Grant explore how people slip into unproductive mental modes — preacher, prosecutor, and politician — especially under stress, and advocate for embracing scientist and teacher mindsets to foster curiosity, growth, and better decision-making.
Brené Brown and Adam Grant engage in a sharp, real-time debate about two communication patterns they call "invisible armies" and "bullshit disclaimers," unpacking how language can either obscure accountability or foster care and connection. What begins as a clash of values evolves into a nuanced exploration of power, gender, and authenticity in feedback.
Brené Brown and Adam Grant explore the return-to-office debate, using systems theory to dissect underlying mental models, and reflect on birth order and podcast authenticity, ultimately landing in violent agreement on hybrid work and the value of unedited, authentic dialogue.
In this episode of The Curiosity Shop, hosts Brené Brown and Adam Grant explore the psychology of shame, differentiating it from guilt, humiliation, and embarrassment, and discussing how shame manifests in personal and professional life. They emphasize that shame—defined as "I am bad"—is universal but rarely discussed, and that empathy is its antidote.
Brené Brown and Adam Grant explore how humans can shape AI responsibly, then dive into listener questions about psychological safety, leadership in uncertainty, and the art of apology, ultimately arguing that curiosity and discomfort are essential for growth and connection.
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In this special series on Brené's new book, Strong Ground, Brené and special guest Adam Grant break down some of the big issues in the book and walk listeners through new research on what it means to be bold in the midst of unrelenting instability and complexity. The real fun is listening to them learn, unlearn, debate, and disagree.
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