Lenny's Podcast: Product | Career | Growth

The AI paradox: More automation, more humans, more work | Dan Shipper

May 24, 2026·1h 34m·7-min readinterviewtechnology
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The AI-driven future of work won't eliminate jobs but will fundamentally reshape them: humans will increasingly 'ride the models' by integrating AI agents into daily workflows, while roles like product managers and designers gain strategic importance through creative direction. The rise o

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