Light Box

3. The Hit Factory (Part II: Steal From Everyone)

September 22, 2026·41 min
Episode Description from the Publisher

A producer with 13 billion streams posts on Reddit about how much he loves making music with AI and... gets banned. We have the conversation that wasn't allowed there. In Part II of our hitmaking story, Mickey Shiloh and David Phelan say the quiet parts out loud: everyone's using it, nobody's admitting it, and if it's happening anyway, you might as well get on the trolley. Also, Mark plays his own AI experiments for his old mentor Jad Abumrad (Radiolab, Dolly Parton's America), who does not react the way either of them expected. Along the way: a $3 million record deal for an "AI music designer," a hip-hop hit built on a soul singer who never existed, and the argument that if you steal from everyone, you've stolen from no one. For more info go to www.LightBoxPodcast.com. Email us! Mark@LightboxPodcast.comLight Box is reported, written, edited and produced by Mark Henry Phillips at Windhill Studios. Our producer is Drew Thurlow and assistant editor is Ryan Seaton.We make this show completely independently so PLEASE support us by leaving a rating and review.Light Box is a proud member of the Radiotopia network from PRX.

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