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Meeting of Minds brings together the top minds in history, theology, finance, economics, language, mathematics and science. Host Jerry Bowyer invites guests to be both intelligent and clear and to follow truth wherever it leads.
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In Ep. 131, Jerry speaks with Jonathan Williams, chief economist of the American Legislative Exchange Council (ALEC). Join us for a conversation surrounding the release of ALEC’s latest Rich States Poor States data. Jerry and Jonathan discuss: Which states are losing people — and why Paul The consequences of the COVID era move to remote work How states can “fall behind by standing still” on economic growth What's behind the recent trend of corporate redomiciliation? See the 2026 edition of ALEC’s Rich States, Poor States report here: https://alec.org/publication/rich-states-poor-states-19th-edition/See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
In Ep. #130, Isaac Willour from Bowyer Research sits down with Luke and Jennifer Richey, cofounders of Haiven, a safe, AI-powered gaming and chat platform designed to protect, connect, and empower the next generation online. Join us for a discussion on: What parents need to know about the reality of child safety on online gaming platforms How Haiven is changing the game in combatting grooming and predation on these platforms The moral and business case for confronting online child exploitation Learn more about Haiven’s work at haiven.gg.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
In Ep. 129, Isaac Willour from Bowyer Research sits down with Tyler O’Neil, senior investigative reporter at the Daily Signal, one of the foremost journalists covering the Southern Poverty Law Center. Join us for a conversation covering: The latest in the DOJ’s indictment of the SPLC How corporate America is cutting ties with activist groups like the SPLC The moral and theological ramifications of treating political affiliation as tantamount to hatred Read Tyler’s excellent work here and follow him on X @Tyler2ONeil.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
At Amazon's annual meeting, the company faced a shareholder proposal from the Heritage Foundation via its Free Enterprise Initiative over its reliance on the Southern Poverty Law Center in vetting charities. Stefan Padfield presented for Heritage, urging the company to drop this biased, discredited data source as part of its responsibility to fiduciary duty and political neutrality. "The board’s opposition statement is most notable for its glaring failure to address whether Amazon continues to use SPLC data, which is a question expressly raised in our proposal. That omission arguably constitutes a red flag in terms of current oversight. More broadly, the proposition that shareholders should simply trust Amazon’s status quo is belied by the fact that Amazon has been rated a High Risk by 1792 Exchange on its Corporate Bias Ratings – including specifically for concerns about ongoing ties to the SPLC." Learn more about Heritage's Free Enterprise Initiative here.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
At American Express' annual meeting of shareholders, the company faced a shareholder proposal from Inspire Investing over its perfect score on the Human Rights Campaign's Corporate Equality Index, one of the primary corporate activist rating systems for LGBTQ+ issues. Presenting at that meeting, along with Inspire's director of corporate engagement Tim Schwarzenberger, was Soren Aldaco, a detransitioner (someone who undergoes gender transition surgery and later regrets it). Aldaco talked to the company about the risks and ramifications of covering gender transition surgery in its healthcare, particularly for children as it appears that Amex does. This was a powerful example of the real human consequences of corporate policies that aid or adopt radical, activist social agendas - and why the corporate move away from such policies and back to sanity cannot come quickly enough. Learn more about Inspire at inspireinvesting.com, and watch Soren's video here. Follow Tim at: https://www.linkedin.com/in/timschwarzenbergercfa/.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
At Docusign's 2026 annual meeting, the company faced a shareholder proposal from Inspire Investing over the use of non-fiduciary metrics in executive compensation. Listen to Inspire's presentation from director of corporate engagement Tim Schwarzenberger, urging the company to prioritize executive clarity and business performance over diversity incentives. "The reputational risks of ESG and DEI elements in executive compensation are well-demonstrated — and the rapidly evolving legal & regulatory landscape around such elements is an additional point in favor of fiduciary duty above all else. We are asking Docusign to defend, and fully commit, to its most critical form of inclusion: including every employee, shareholder, and customer as part of its mission of a growing company and a healthier world. Learn more about Inspire at inspireinvesting.com. Follow Tim at: https://www.linkedin.com/in/timschwarzenbergercfa/.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
At S&P Global's annual meeting, the company faced a shareholder proposal from the Heritage Foundation via its Free Enterprise Initiative, asking the company to report on the risks of the company’s work with activist groups like the Human Rights Campaign. Meanwhile, the company became once again embroiled in controversy over its ESG rating policies while this engagement was going on, underscoring politicization concerns. As Heritage’s Stefan Padfield told the company at its annual meeting: Another red flag calling into question the Company’s status quo is a recent letter from a coalition of 23 states questioning the lawfulness of the ESG policies of S&P Global Ratings. This letter was led in part by Nebraska Attorney General Mike Hilgers and raises the specter of undisclosed and unlawful material conflicts of interest, as well as concerns related to antitrust violations and deceptive trade practices – all connected to the Company’s embrace of politically charged ESG. The foregoing list of red flags suggesting biased decision-making at S&P Global should make it difficult for shareholders to trust the status quo. Learn more about Heritage's Free Enterprise Initiative here.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
At Cummins' 2026 annual meeting, the company faced a shareholder proposal from David Bahnsen, founder of The Bahnsen Group, over the company's participation in activist rating systems like the Human Rights Campaign's Corporate Equality Index. Listen to David's presentation, urging the company to prioritize core business over activist scorecards. "Cummins’ rating from the Human Rights Campaign does not indicate political neutrality. It indicates alignment with highly controversial medical interventions, including hormone regimens and gender transition surgery. Further, Cummins’ active participation in activist indices is concerning for shareholders who expect the company to avoid political controversy. Cummins should not be grabbing headlines for political stances. And it does not need to seek applause from activists. Its core business, meeting the needs of humanity by building the diesel engines and the generators that help power our world, is a noble, commendable, and vital business model that every investor can and ought to be proud of." Learn more about The Bahnsen Group at thebahnsengroup.com.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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