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by Mike and Alicia Hernon : Catholic Marriage Parent and Family
Parenting is not a clean-cut, simple process for those who like to follow the rules. Family life is messy and unpredictable, but it is the greatest adventure you will ever have. We are Mike and Alicia Hernon, parents of 10 children with a growing number of grandchildren, and we would like to invite you into some of the conversations we have had with each other about marriage, parenting, and Catholic family life. Our hope is that our conversation sparks a dialogue between you and your spouse that leads to greater unity and intentional Christian parenting in your home. Listen in to our podcast and start the conversation as we seek to lead our families to heaven. Visit us at https:///www/MessyFamilyProject.org for resources, guides, links and show notes.
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- 2 days ago41 min
MFP 391: Jesus Take the Wheel! Being Overwhelmed
Summary This re-release of a 2016 episode focuses on the experience of feeling overwhelmed as a parent and reframes it as a sign that your current responsibilities have exceeded your capacity, not a personal failure. It encourages parents to step back, prioritize their primary vocation of loving their spouse and children, and let go of unrealistic expectations that create unnecessary pressure. By simplifying schedules, reducing commitments, and taking small, manageable steps, families can regain a sense of peace and control. In this conversation, Mike and Alicia also show the importance of surrendering stress to God through prayer, trusting that faith and intentional living can bring clarity and calm even in the midst of chaos. Key Takeaways Realize that this too will pass. Most of the time our children are going through phases and end. Prioritize what's really important and the rest will fall into place. We need to learn to focus. Look at the standards you're setting for yourself and recognize they may not be realistic. Give yourself grace. Rest in the fact that God will always provide a way out for you. He will never give you more than you can handle with His grace. Couple Discussion Questions Do you feel supported by me in stressful moments? Where might we need to adJUST the bar or give each other more grace? What do we believe our top priorities are as a family right now? Resources Family board meeting guide https://messyfamilyproject.org/guide/family-board-meeting-guide/
- 1 weeks ago51 min
MFP 390: What Happens After the Romance Fades?
Summary Have you ever felt distant from your spouse, like you're simply coexisting in the same house or experiencing dryness in your marriage? Every marriage goes through natural cycles of romance and disillusionment, but without intentional actions, indifference can creep in. How do you break out of that indifference and reconnect? In this re-release of Episode 089, we give simple and practical advice for couples to escape indifference and rebuild a happy, healthy marriage. Key Takeaways Love is a decision, not a feeling. When we recommit ourselves to our relationship things can start to improve. "In losing your life, you will save it" - Give yourself away. You can't control your spouse, but you can take action and start to love unconditionally. Pursue your spouse through affirmation, physical love, and by praying for them. Do it now - immediately. Delaying only makes things worse. The sooner you can reorient yourselves towards each other, the easier it wll be. Couple Discussion Questions How much quality time do we actually spend together each week? Do we talk mostly about logistics, or do we share our hearts? What types of affection make each of us feel most connected? What would be a simple way to start praying together more consistently? Resources MFP Episode 015: Five Love Languages MFP Episode 054: Vulnerability in Marriage MFP Blog: Disillusionment: What to do and how to fight it https://messyfamilyproject.org/blog/disillusionment-what-to-do-and-how-to-fight-it/ MFP Resource: Communication in Marriage https://messyfamilyproject.org/guide/communication/
- 2 weeks ago46 min
MFP 389: 33 Days to Consecration to the Holy Family
Consecration is about living your daily family life in union with Jesus, Mary, and Joseph, right in the middle of the mess. Summary What if your family life, in all its chaos and imperfection, could actually become holy? This week on the Messy Family Podcast, we talk with Scott Smith about his book 33 Days to Consecration to the Holy Family. He shares how consecration isn't just a devotion, but a way of living "under one roof" with Jesus, Mary, and Joseph. We dig into how this simple practice can protect your family, bring the spirit of Nazareth into your daily routine, and help you turn even your failures into moments of prayer. If you've ever felt like you're falling short as a parent or struggling to lead your family spiritually, this conversation will meet you right where you are. Join us and learn how small, faithful steps can transform your home from the inside out. Key Takeaways Consecration to the Holy Family means entrusting your whole family life to Jesus, Mary, and Joseph together, not separately. It brings both protection and a "spirit of Nazareth" into your everyday routines and work. You can relate to the Holy Family in a personal way by imagining life with them and learning from their example. Parents lead this best by living it first, then passing it on to their kids through simple, authentic witness. You don't need to be perfect. Even your mistakes and imperfect prayers can be offered and become part of the journey. Couple Discussion Questions How can we start a habit of prayer in our home today? When you think about being in the home at Nazareth, what do Joseph and Mary look like? How old is Jesus? What are you doing with them? Resources shopmercy.org
- 3 weeks ago48 min
MFP 388: Your Husband is Not a Home Improvement Project
"A complaint focuses on a specific behavior, but criticism attacks a person's very character." - John Gottman Summary This episode focuses on how criticism in marriage, especially towards husbands, can quietly damage connection and respect if it targets a person's character instead of addressing specific behaviors. Many wives fall into patterns of correcting or pointing out faults, often with good intentions, but this can lead to defensiveness, withdrawal, and a negative cycle in the relationship. In this episode, Mike and Alicia emphasize the importance of expressing concerns calmly and specifically, assuming goodwill, and building up your spouse through affirmation rather than constant critique. They encourage taking responsibility for your own tone and approach, choosing respect over being "right," and fostering a spirit of partnership that strengthens the marriage instead of eroding it. Re-release of MFP044. Key Takeaways Criticism attacks identity, complaints address behavior Respect matters more than being "right" Assume the best, not the worst - Timing and tone are everything Focus on your own growth first Couple Discussion Questions Are there specific words or habits of mine that make you feel discouraged or unappreciated? Do you notice any patterns where we fall into criticism and defensiveness? What usually triggers those moments for us? Is there something you wish I understood better about why you do certain things? How can I bring up concerns in a way that feels encouraging instead of critical? Resources MFP Episode 369: Marriages Don't Accidentally Communicate Well MFP Blog: Arguing with Your Spouse https://messyfamilyproject.org/blog/arguing-with-your-spouse-2/ MFP Communication in Marriage Guide https://messyfamilyproject.org/guide/communication/
- Jun 29, 20261h 20m
MFP 387: The Truth about Toddlers
The strength of even the smallest children is more than we imagine, but it must have a free play in order to reveal itself" - Maria Montessori Summary This episode focuses on understanding toddlers not as problems to manage, but as persons in a critical state of development who are striving for independence and learning how to function in the world. Through a Montessori-informed and Catholic lens, Maggie Radzik explains that much of what parents label as "misbehavior" is actually a child's natural growth process combined with limited emotional regulation. Her conversation with Mike and Alicia emphasizes that parents should shift from control to formation by observing their child, preparing an environment that supports success, and responding calmly—especially during tantrums, which are signs of overwhelm rather than defiance. The episode highlights that parenting toddlers is as much about the child's formation as it is about the parents' own growth in patience, humility, and intentionality, with a gentle reminder that even very young children can begin to encounter God through simple, peaceful experiences of faith. Key Takeaways Your toddler is not the problem - you are. You are being formed by them as you are taking on this parenting role! Toddlers crave independence but they are easily overwhelmed. Create an environment for them to learn. We need to allow the environment of the home to teach the child, but that means we need to slow down and observe them and see what they need. To handle a tantrum, we need to stay calm and grounded and not take it personally. Stop reacting and shift to being intentional about how you treat them. They are a person in progress! Couple Discussion Questions Where do we see our toddler striving for independence lately? What situations seem to overwhelm our toddler most? How do each of us typically respond to tantrums? Where do we say "no" the most? Could we change the environment instead? Resources MFP Discipline Guide https://messyfamilyproject.org/guide/discipline-guide/ MFP Blog: How to Survive the Toddler Years https://messyfamilyproject.org/blog/how-to-survive-the-toddler-years-2/
- Jun 22, 20261h 25m
MFP 386: How to Have a Whole and Happy Marriage
When you feel you can't give any more, ask yourself, "Can I say YES to one act of connection?" - Pat and Kenna Millea Summary If you've ever wondered why communication in marriage can feel so easy at first and then surprisingly hard, this conversation is for you. In this episode of the Messy Family Project, Pat and Kenna Millea share honest, hopeful wisdom about what's really going on beneath conflict and disconnection. They remind us that our desire to be known and united is good, and that even struggles can point us toward deeper love. With practical insight like the "Four Cs" of conflict and a refreshing take on vulnerability, they offer simple ways to reconnect, even when you feel like you have nothing left to give. It's real, encouraging, and deeply worth your time. Key Takeaways Conflict points to connection, not failure The tension couples feel often comes from a deep desire to be known and united. That longing is a good sign. Communication requires vulnerability Real intimacy, both emotional and physical, depends on openness. Even subtle coercion breaks trust. The Four Cs create a path through conflict Calm yourself first, connect with your own feelings, commit to the relationship, then address the issue. Small acts of connection matter When you feel empty, ask what you can give. Even one small "yes" can begin to rebuild closeness. Couple Discussion Questions When we experience conflict, do we tend to focus more on being right or staying connected? What would it look like to shift that? In moments when I feel like I have nothing to give, what is one small act of connection I could still offer you? Resources https://martincenterforintegration.com/podcast
- Jun 15, 202655 min
MFP 385: Fighting the Slow Drift in Marriage
Relationships are built with the material of time. Summary Strong marriages don't happen by accident—they require intentional time, attention, and sacrifice. This episode encourages couples to prioritize their relationship above the busyness of family life, stay connected through meaningful communication, and regularly invest in their friendship through date nights and shared experiences. Mike and Alicia highlight the importance of recognizing and responding to each other's needs, guarding against the slow drift apart that can happen over time, and keeping Christ at the center of the marriage through prayer and shared faith. They call couples to be proactive in nurturing their love so their relationship remains a source of strength and stability for the entire family. Key Takeaways Act like you are in love Find common/shared loves Leave the children and invest in each other Take time to connect daily There are ways to make the struggle of marriage easier - physical relationship Couple Discussion Questions When was the last time we had a meaningful, uninterrupted conversation? Do we tend to talk mostly about logistics, or do we make time for deeper connection? What do you enjoy most when we spend time together? What is one step we could take to grow spiritually together? Resources MFP Mini-Marriage Retreat Guide https://messyfamilyproject.org/guide/mini-marriage-check-in/ MFP Communication in Marriage Guide https://messyfamilyproject.org/guide/communication/
- Jun 1, 20261h 0m
MFP 384: Paul McCusker and the Power of Story
"Kids are always processing what happens around them. Stories give them a way to do that." - Paul McCusker Summary Today on the podcast we welcome Paul McCusker, an award-winning writer whose stories have shaped the imaginations of families for decades. Many know Paul from Adventures in Odyssey, where he wrote and produced some of the series' most loved episodes. We talk about his newest project, Welcome to Hope Springs, and how great stories combine truth, beauty, and engagement. Paul shares why we should never talk down to kids, especially ages ten to twelve, when their imagination is wide open and they are learning how to see the world. Stories help children live through characters, process hard realities, and even prepare for moments they have not faced yet. This conversation is about why stories matter for kids and families today. Key Takeaways Great stories combine truth, beauty, and engagement. Stories that last are not just entertaining. They communicate deeper truths in a compelling way. We should never talk down to children. Kids, especially ages 10–12, can understand much more than adults often assume. Children at this age are learning how to see and interpret the world around them. Stories help children process real-life events. Kids are always processing what happens around them, even when they do not yet know how. Stories allow children to live vicariously and see how others face challenges and grow. Stories prepare us for future moments. The wisdom in good stories plants seeds that shape future choices and actions. Talking about stories with parents deepens their impact. Conversations help kids understand lessons, character growth, and how to respond in real-life situations. Couple Discussion Questions What stories do you remember from your childhood? Maybe it was something you read or something you heard or a movie you watched. Can you think of a story that helped you see a situation or choice differently in your own life? What was it and why did it stick with you? Resources https://www.augustineinstitute.org/hopesprings
About Messy Family Podcast : Catholic Conversations on Marriage and Family
Parenting is not a clean-cut, simple process for those who like to follow the rules. Family life is messy and unpredictable, but it is the greatest adventure you will ever have. We are Mike and Alicia Hernon, parents of 10 children with a growing number of grandchildren, and we would like to invite you into some of the conversations we have had with each other about marriage, parenting, and Catholic family life. Our hope is that our conversation sparks a dialogue between you and your spouse that leads to greater unity and intentional Christian parenting in your home. Listen in to our podcast and start the conversation as we seek to lead our families to heaven. Visit us at https:///www/MessyFamilyProject.org for resources, guides, links and show notes.
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