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Mark explores the minds of visionary entrepreneurs who refuse to limit themselves to a single venture to learn how these trailblazers manage risks, innovate across industries, and turn ideas into impact. Whether you’re scaling your first business or juggling several, this podcast is your ultimate guide to thriving as a parallel entrepreneur.
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- 1 weeks ago1h 21m
Why Great Businesses Need Stewardship, Not Just Capital | Douglas Song
What happens when an entrepreneur spends decades helping founders transition, scale, and protect the businesses they’ve built?In this episode of The Parallel Entrepreneur, Mark Cleveland sits down with Douglas Song, founder and CEO of Protos Capital, for a wide-ranging conversation on independent sponsors, lower middle market acquisitions, leadership, succession planning, AI, uncertainty, and what founders often overlook when preparing for growth or exit.Doug shares lessons from dozens of transactions across multiple industries, including how he evaluates leadership teams, why organic growth still matters more than acquisition rollups, and what makes a business resilient in a world filled with constant disruption.But this conversation also becomes deeply personal.Doug reflects on immigrating to the United States from South Korea as a child, watching his parents build a life through entrepreneurship, and how that experience shaped the way he thinks about people, stewardship, and long-term value creation.The conversation also explores:• The rise of the independent sponsor model• Why succession planning is becoming urgent for founder-led businesses• AI adoption in lower middle market companies• How great operators handle black swan events• Why culture and people matter more than spreadsheets• Building blue-collar entrepreneurship pathways for the next generation• The difference between growing fast and growing well• Legacy, learning, and designing a life with intentionWhether you’re building, scaling, buying, selling, or simply trying to lead well through uncertainty, this episode offers a rare combination of strategic insight and lived experience.Subscribe for more conversations with founders, operators, creators, and visionaries building in parallel.About the HostMark Cleveland is an entrepreneur, investor, and advisor who works at the intersection of multiple ventures. As the voice behind The Parallel Entrepreneur, he explores how founders build aligned businesses, strong teams, and sustainable momentum—without forcing themselves into a single path.https://www.linkedin.com/in/macleveland/About the GuestDouglas Song is the Founder and CEO of Protos Capital, an independent sponsor firm focused on lower middle market businesses. For more than 25 years, he has worked alongside founders and management teams to help businesses grow, transition, and navigate acquisitions with a people-first approach centered on long-term value, stewardship, and community.https://www.linkedin.com/in/douglas-song-9415045/Links & Resources👉 Join the Parallel Entrepreneur Network:https://www.parallelentrepreneur.com/#about-me👉 Subscribe for more conversations with leaders building aligned systems across business, education, and community.👍 If this episode resonated, leave a comment or share it with someone shaping the future of leadership.Key Moments00:00 Why founders need transition plans, not just exits00:47 Introducing Douglas Song and Protos Capital01:30 Entrepreneurship Through Acquisition (ETA) explained03:00 Independent sponsors vs. traditional operators05:00 Why operators matter more than dealmakers06:01 The coming succession wave for founder-led businesses08:15 What “another bite at the apple” really means11:50 How Protos measures investment success12:40 Defining the lower middle market13:50 AI adoption in family-owned businesses16:30 Using AI during due diligence17:20 What founders overlook before a transaction20:00 Growth by acquisition vs. organic growth23:40 Why organic growth still wins with buyers24:38 Evaluating leadership teams under pressure27:40 Black swan events and constant uncertainty31:35 Managing leverage and protecting downside risk35:22 Is Douglas Song a parallel entrepreneur?37:20 Lessons learned across multiple portfolio companies41:15 Why flexibility matters more than fixed timelines44:20 Different types of capital partners46:35 What makes founders great partners49:27 Mentoring the next generation of independent sponsors52:25 Why community matters in business53:48 Protecting culture after acquisition55:08 Doug’s immigrant family story and entrepreneurial roots57:20 Building blue-collar entrepreneurship pathways01:01:45 AI, uncertainty, and creating opportunities for young people01:06:05 Books, learning, and the concept of flow01:10:12 Writing letters to his children01:11:40 Advice for navigating uncertainty01:13:40 Restoration, creativity, and balance01:15:45 Formula 1, Monaco, and memorable experiences01:17:18 Doug’s long-term life plan and legacy goals01:20:14 Final reflections and closing thoughts#ParallelEntrepreneur #DouglasSong #PrivateEquity #Entrepreneurship #MergersAndAcquisitions #Leadership
- 3 weeks ago54 min
Stop Planning. Start Building. (His Rule Will Challenge You) | Daniel Innovaté
There’s a new kind of builder emerging.Not slower. Not more careful. Just… faster, sharper, and a little harder to categorize.In this episode, we sit down with Daniel Innovaté, product designer, creative entrepreneur, and one of the most naturally adaptive builders you’ll come across.Daniel doesn’t just talk about ideas. He turns them into real, working products, sometimes in minutes.We explore what it actually looks like to build in this new era:- Creating apps in 15 minutes instead of 6 months- Using AI as a collaborator, not a threat- Managing 10+ parallel projects without losing direction- Why being a generalist might be the real advantage now- And how speed is changing the way we think, build, and solve problemsAt one point, Daniel shares how he built a fully functional app for his dog… on a plane… before landing.It sounds trivial. It’s not.Because underneath that story is something bigger:We’re entering a moment where ideas don’t have to sit in notebooks anymore. They can come to life instantly.But speed comes with tradeoffs.We also get into:- The tension between creativity and AI- Why most people resist new tools (and what that really means)- The shift from centralized platforms back to community-driven systems- And why nature—not technology—might be the real counterbalanceThis conversation isn’t about doing more.It’s about seeing what’s possible when friction disappears.About Daniel InnovatéDaniel is a product designer, builder, and creative entrepreneur known for turning messy, early-stage ideas into polished, live experiences with unusual speed and clarity. He operates across multiple ventures, blending design, technology, and creativity to build platforms that solve real problems, fast.https://www.linkedin.com/in/danielinnovate/https://ideafactory.agency/danielinnovateAbout the HostMark Cleveland is an entrepreneur, investor, and advisor who works at the intersection of multiple ventures. As the voice behind The Parallel Entrepreneur, he explores how founders build aligned businesses, strong teams, and sustainable momentum, without forcing themselves into a single path.https://www.linkedin.com/in/macleveland/⏱️ TIMESTAMPS00:00 Building 20+ revenue streams at once01:20 Welcome to The Parallel Entrepreneur01:50 Introducing Daniel Innovaté03:00 How we met (and why it stuck)04:30 From Soviet refugee to builder06:30 The mindset of a parallel entrepreneur08:30 Why generalists win in today’s world08:50 AI vs creativity (what surprised Daniel most)10:45 Collaborating with AI as a creative12:30 The speed of AI (and why it’s hard to keep up)13:40 “AGI already happened” — Daniel’s perspective14:05 How he chooses what to build next15:45 “Just build it yourself” — the new playbook16:50 The magic of building ideas instantly17:00 The 15-minute app story (for his dog 🐶)18:25 What “parallel entrepreneur” really means19:05 Are younger builders embracing AI?20:40 Why experts resist AI tools21:30 Don’t start a company for every idea22:25 What inspires Daniel to create23:40 Turning ideas into real products overnight24:00 Inside ecom.ai (automating product catalogs)27:45 What happens when AI removes busywork28:30 What we’ll do with all this extra time29:20 From 1,000 lines of code to 250,000+30:00 Why older frameworks of thinking are breaking31:30 Speed vs quality (and finding the balance)32:30 AI as a creative collaborator33:20 The shift away from centralized platforms35:00 Identity, expression, and building something personal36:05 Trust, relationships, and the next currency36:50 The reality of modern dating (unfiltered)38:30 The case for slowing down40:15 Nature vs technology41:10 Reinventing lending (Folio Capital)44:05 Turning images into video (render.realestate)46:10 Protecting ideas in a fast-moving world48:20 Building feedback loops into products49:00 Raising capital + building in public50:05 Reverse mentorship (learning both ways)51:30 When mentorship backfires52:40 Protecting your energy as a builder53:20 Closing thoughts
- Apr 27, 20261h 8m
What It Really Takes to Build a Brand People Love | Andy Marshall
Most people think they’re building a business.But every now and then, you meet someone who’s building something deeper, something rooted in people, place, and community.In this episode of The Parallel Entrepreneur, Mark sits down with Andy Marshall, Founder & CEO of A. Marshall Hospitality and the driving force behind Puckett’s. From his early days in the grocery business to transforming a small market with two gas pumps into a destination known for food, music, and connection, Andy’s journey doesn’t follow a typical path, it evolves with purpose.Puckett’s didn’t grow because of a playbook. It grew because it meant something to people. And over time, that approach hasn’t just worked, it’s scaled, without losing what made it matter in the first place.Now, Andy is stepping into a new chapter, running for Mayor of Williamson County. Not as a career politician, but as a builder shaped by decades of leading teams, serving communities, and creating places people care about.This conversation explores what that kind of leadership looks like: • How Puckett’s became more than a restaurant, it became a community staple • The discipline behind long-term growth • Why community isn’t a byproduct, it’s the foundation • What it means to lead beyond your business • And why stepping into public service felt like the next right moveThis isn’t just about hospitality.It’s about building with intention, and carrying that into leadership at a different level.𝗟𝗲𝗮𝗿𝗻 𝗺𝗼𝗿𝗲 𝗮𝗯𝗼𝘂𝘁 𝗔𝗻𝗱𝘆 𝗮𝗻𝗱 𝗵𝗶𝘀 𝘄𝗼𝗿𝗸:https://www.puckettsrestaurant.com/https://www.voteandymarshall.com/https://www.voteandymarshall.com/abouthttps://www.facebook.com/voteandymarshall/About the HostMark Cleveland is an entrepreneur, investor, and advisor who works at the intersection of multiple ventures. As the voice behind The Parallel Entrepreneur, he explores how founders build aligned businesses, strong teams, and sustainable momentum—without forcing themselves into a single path.https://www.linkedin.com/in/macleveland/About the GuestAndy Marshall is an entrepreneur who built his career the long way, starting in the grocery business before transforming a small-town market into what is now Puckett’s, one of the most recognized hospitality brands in the region. As Founder and CEO of A. Marshall Hospitality, he’s spent years scaling a business without losing its identity, focusing on experience, consistency, and community. His work reflects a belief that great businesses aren’t just built to grow—they’re built to matter.
- Apr 8, 202653 min
Why Mentorship Is Broken (And How to Fix It) | Eve Peeterson
There’s a moment in every founder’s journey where the question shifts.Not “What am I building?”But “Who am I becoming?”In this conversation, Mark sits down with Eve Peeterson, an Estonian strategy and transformation leader who has led across private industry, government innovation, and national startup ecosystems.From working her way up in hospitality…To leading Estonia’s startup strategy…To now building a global mentorship platform…This is a conversation about reinvention, leadership, and what it actually takes to build ecosystems that work.They explore the real differences between US and European startup cultures, why mentorship is misunderstood, and how the best leaders keep learning, especially when they’re the ones teaching.And maybe most importantly…Why your next evolution doesn’t require starting over. Just saying yes.What You’ll Learn:- Why “perfect before launch” is holding founders back- The real difference between US and European startup thinking- How mentorship should actually work (and why it usually doesn’t)- Why leadership is the root of culture — whether you like it or not- How to keep reinventing yourself without losing who you areAbout the HostMark Cleveland is an entrepreneur, investor, and advisor who works at the intersection of multiple ventures. As the voice behind The Parallel Entrepreneur, he explores how founders build aligned businesses, strong teams, and sustainable momentum—without forcing themselves into a single path.https://www.linkedin.com/in/macleveland/About the GuestEve Peeterson is an Estonian strategy and transformation leader with over 20 years of experience across hospitality, creative industries, and national innovation. From leading Startup Estonia to building cross-border initiatives like Nordic Tech Valley, she now focuses on leadership development as the founder of Leadrs.online, a mentorship platform designed to make better leadership more accessible.https://www.linkedin.com/in/eve-peeterson/⏱️ Key Moments00:00 – If you’re the smartest in the room…02:10 – Why she came to the U.S. (and what she got wrong)05:10 – Mentorship: Europe vs U.S.07:03 – The mistake founders make: waiting too long to sell08:51 – Reinventing yourself (again and again)14:24 – “Maybe I am an entrepreneur”18:56 – Why Estonia punches above its weight26:40 – Starting over when nobody knows you28:22 – Why teaching is the best way to learn31:14 – The biggest hiring mistake founders make32:43 – Leadership sets the culture40:04 – The decision that changed Estonia’s future43:38 – What innovation actually means49:47 – What she’s taking from this experienceLinks & Resources👉 Join the Parallel Entrepreneur Network:https://www.parallelentrepreneur.com/#about-me👉 Subscribe for more conversations with leaders building aligned systems across business, education, and community.👍 If this episode resonated, leave a comment or share it with someone shaping the future of leadership.
- Mar 18, 202621 min
Why Founders Don’t Succeed Alone | Dakota Simpson
In this episode of the Parallel Entrepreneur – Innovation Series, Mark Cleveland and Johnny Anderson sit down with Dakota Simpson, Chief Program Officer at the Nashville Entrepreneur Center.Dakota is focused on a simple idea: founders don’t succeed in isolation. They succeed when the right systems, support, and structure are in place around them.At the NEC, he leads the strategy and execution behind accelerator programs and founder development, helping entrepreneurs access the resources, networks, and guidance needed to grow.But this conversation goes deeper.It’s about what actually drives founder success beyond the idea.They cover:• Why ecosystems matter more than individual effort• The role of structure in startup success• What founders actually need at different stages• Aligning programs, people, and outcomes• Building more inclusive pathways to growthShort, practical, and grounded in real experience.Links - https://www.boringcompany.com/- https://technologycouncil.com/- https://nashvillechamber.com/- https://ec.co/- https://williamsonchamber.com/About the GuestDakota Simpson is Chief Program Officer at the Nashville Entrepreneur Center, where he leads startup accelerators and founder programming. With a background in government and nonprofit leadership, he focuses on building systems that improve access, strengthen execution, and help entrepreneurs grow with clarity and support.https://www.linkedin.com/in/dakota-simpson-566358306/About the HostsMark A. ClevelandManaging Director at Kensington Park Capital, entrepreneur, M&A advisor, and host of the Parallel Entrepreneur Networkhttps://www.linkedin.com/in/macleveland/Johnny AndersonNashville tech leader, GNTC board member, Entrepreneur-in-Residence at the Entrepreneurship & Innovation Center, and host of The Impodsters™https://www.linkedin.com/in/johnnyonbrand/Links & Resources👉 Learn more about the Entrepreneurship & Innovation Center (EIC):https://www.wcs.edu/secondary/entrepreneurship-innovation-center-eic👉 Join the Parallel Entrepreneur Network:https://www.parallelentrepreneur.com/#about-me👉 Subscribe for more conversations with leaders building aligned systems across business, education, and community.👍 If this episode resonated, leave a comment or share it with someone shaping the future of leadership.Chapters00:00:00 Speed to market and why it matters00:00:50 Meet Dakota Simpson + role overview00:01:54 What innovation actually means00:02:40 Building a founder support system00:03:42 The current surge in entrepreneurship00:05:02 Growth in founder demand and programs00:06:14 Shifts in founder demographics00:07:46 Younger founders entering earlier00:09:08 The rise of the parallel entrepreneur00:10:32 Lower barriers and earlier risk-taking00:11:05 Entrepreneurship by acquisition00:11:37 AI’s impact on founders00:12:30 What AI means for SaaS and business models00:13:55 Speed of change and access to knowledge00:15:00 What founders actually need to succeed00:17:30 Building systems that support growth00:19:30 Final thoughts on supporting entrepreneurs00:21:00 Episode close
- Mar 11, 20266 min
Operational Debt Is Slowing Your Company | Stephanie Johnson
In this episode of the Parallel Entrepreneur – Innovation Series, Mark Cleveland and Johnny Anderson sit down with Stephanie Johnson, a fractional CEO and COO who specializes in helping companies eliminate what she calls operational debt.Most leaders recognize technical debt in software. Fewer realize the same concept exists inside organizations.Misaligned teams. Unclear processes. Decisions that made sense in the moment but quietly compound over time.Stephanie steps into companies during pivotal moments—growth, transition, or pressure—and helps leadership teams reconnect strategy with execution.This conversation explores:• What operational debt actually looks like inside organizations• Why strategy often fails at the execution layer• How leaders stabilize teams during change• The hidden friction slowing growth• What it takes to realign people, systems, and performanceIf you’ve ever felt like your business should be moving faster than it is, this conversation will resonate.About the Stephanie JohnsonStephanie Johnson is a fractional and interim CEO/COO who helps organizations navigate complexity, stabilize operations, and drive sustainable growth. Known for her ability to quickly assess challenges and reconnect strategy with execution, she works with leadership teams to improve performance, strengthen alignment, and eliminate operational friction. Stephanie has led across global teams and organizations, bringing a balance of operational rigor, executive leadership, and people-centered transformation.About the HostsMark A. ClevelandManaging Director at Kensington Park Capital, entrepreneur, M&A advisor, and host of the Parallel Entrepreneur Networkhttps://www.linkedin.com/in/macleveland/Johnny AndersonNashville tech leader, GNTC board member, Entrepreneur-in-Residence at the Entrepreneurship & Innovation Center, and host of The Impodsters™https://www.linkedin.com/in/johnnyonbrand/Links & Resources👉 Learn more about the Entrepreneurship & Innovation Center (EIC):https://www.wcs.edu/secondary/entrepreneurship-innovation-center-eic👉 Join the Parallel Entrepreneur Network:https://www.parallelentrepreneur.com/#about-me👉 Subscribe for more conversations with leaders building aligned systems across business, education, and community.👍 If this episode resonated, leave a comment or share it with someone shaping the future of leadership.Chapters00:00:00 The idea of operational debt00:00:44 Episode introduction + Stephanie’s leadership focus00:01:10 What operational debt looks like inside companies00:02:05 Why strategy often breaks at execution00:02:58 Stepping into organizations during pivotal moments00:03:47 Aligning leadership teams around clarity and accountability00:04:39 Finding the friction slowing growth00:05:26 Stabilizing teams during transformation00:06:19 Reconnecting strategy with operational discipline00:07:12 Leadership lessons from high-stakes environments00:08:05 Final thoughts on eliminating operational debt
- Mar 4, 202610 min
Strategic Alignment of Talent, Tech & Data | Amy Henderson
In this episode of the Parallel Entrepreneur, Innovation Series, Mark Cleveland and Johnny Anderson sit down with Amy Henderson, Director of Infrastructure at HCA Healthcare Physician Services.Amy operates at the intersection of technical viability and business outcomes, aligning talent, technology, and data to drive enterprise growth inside one of the largest healthcare systems in the country.But this conversation isn’t just about infrastructure.It’s about what it really takes to connect strategy to execution. To build teams that understand both the financial model and the human one. And to develop workforce pipelines that strengthen an entire region.Amy also reflects on her decade of service with the Nashville Technology Council, including her time as Board Chair, where she helped advocate for technology-focused workforce development across Tennessee, from K-12 to career changers.This episode explores:• Why strategic alignment is a leadership discipline• Operating technical teams inside financial guardrails• Building culture while scaling enterprise systems• Workforce development as a long-term investment• The role Nashville plays in shaping tech leadershipIf you care about the future of enterprise leadership — especially where technology meets execution — this conversation is worth your time.About Amy HendersonAmy Henderson is Director of Infrastructure at HCA Healthcare Physician Services, where she aligns talent, technology, and data to drive enterprise performance in complex healthcare environments. With a focus on connecting technical strategy to business outcomes, she builds high-performing teams that operate with both financial discipline and cultural strength. Amy also served for a decade on the Nashville Technology Council Board, including as Chair, where she championed workforce development across Tennessee’s tech ecosystem.https://www.linkedin.com/in/henderson-amy/About the HostsMark A. ClevelandManaging Director at Kensington Park Capital, entrepreneur, M&A advisor, and host of the Parallel Entrepreneur Networkhttps://www.linkedin.com/in/macleveland/Johnny AndersonNashville tech leader, GNTC board member, Entrepreneur-in-Residence at the Entrepreneurship & Innovation Center, and host of The Impodsters™https://www.linkedin.com/in/johnnyonbrand/Links & Resources👉 Learn more about the Entrepreneurship & Innovation Center (EIC):https://www.wcs.edu/secondary/entrepreneurship-innovation-center-eic👉 Join the Parallel Entrepreneur Network:https://www.parallelentrepreneur.com/#about-me👉 Subscribe for more conversations with leaders building aligned systems across business, education, and community.👍 If this episode resonated, leave a comment or share it with someone shaping the future of leadership.Chapters00:00:00 The intersection of tech viability and business goals00:00:41 Episode introduction + Amy’s leadership focus00:01:07 Amy’s role at HCA Healthcare Physician Services00:01:54 Aligning talent, tech, and data inside enterprise systems00:02:48 Operating to a financial model while scaling teams00:03:39 Building culture within infrastructure organizations00:04:28 Why workforce development matters in Tennessee00:05:27 Serving on the Nashville Technology Council00:06:18 Developing talent pipelines from K-12 to career changers00:07:32 Leadership lessons from board service and enterprise growth00:08:36 Episode close
- Feb 25, 202621 min
Women in Tech, Real Relationships & Nashville’s Growth Story | Meg Chamblee
In this episode of The Parallel Entrepreneur – Innovation Series, Mark Cleveland and Johnny Anderson sit down with Meg Chamblee, Executive Vice President for Tennessee at UDig.Meg launched UDig’s Nashville office in 2020 and has grown it more than 10x, building not just a market presence, but a reputation rooted in trust, partnership, and long-term relationships.But this conversation goes far beyond growth metrics.Meg shares how Nashville’s tech community has evolved, why organizations like Women in Technology of Tennessee (WiTT) matter more than ever, and what it really looks like to lead with both excellence and inclusion.As a past president of WiTT and a board leader at the Greater Nashville Technology Council (GNTC), Meg has helped shape the ecosystem that supports emerging leaders, especially women navigating technology careers in Middle Tennessee.This episode explores:• Why community is a strategic advantage in Nashville• How WiTT is creating access, confidence, and opportunity for women in tech• The power of real relationships in building sustainable growth• What enterprise clients actually need from digital transformation partners• How leadership evolves as companies scale• Why investing in people outlasts investing in hypeIf you care about technology, leadership, and building something that lasts in this city, this conversation is for you.Learn more about WiTT: https://www.wittn.org/Connect with Meg: https://www.linkedin.com/in/megchamblee/About Meg ChambleeMeg Chamblee is Executive Vice President for Tennessee at UDig, a technology consulting firm that designs and builds custom digital workflows and experience solutions for enterprise clients. She founded and leads UDig’s Nashville office, which has grown more than 10x since 2020.Meg is a past president of Women in Technology of Tennessee (WiTT), serves on the board of the Greater Nashville Technology Council (GNTC), and co-founded the ELITE (Emerging Leaders in Technology) program. She has been recognized as an NBJ 40 Under 40 honoree and is a longtime advocate for building inclusive leadership pipelines across Middle Tennessee.About the HostsMark A. ClevelandManaging Director at Kensington Park Capital, entrepreneur, M&A advisor, and host of the Parallel Entrepreneur Networkhttps://www.linkedin.com/in/macleveland/Johnny AndersonNashville tech leader, GNTC board member, Entrepreneur-in-Residence at the Entrepreneurship & Innovation Center, and host of The Impodsters™https://www.linkedin.com/in/johnnyonbrand/Links & Resources👉 Learn more about the Entrepreneurship & Innovation Center (EIC):https://www.wcs.edu/secondary/entrepreneurship-innovation-center-eic👉 Join the Parallel Entrepreneur Network:https://www.parallelentrepreneur.com/#about-me👉 Subscribe for more conversations with leaders building aligned systems across business, education, and community.👍 If this episode resonated, leave a comment or share it with someone shaping the future of leadership.Chapters 00:00:00 The reality of being the only woman in the room 00:00:52 Episode introduction + framing Meg’s leadership 00:01:01 Meg Chamblee, UDig, and launching Nashville 00:01:47 Why relationships drive real growth 00:02:03 Nashville’s tech ecosystem and connection culture 00:03:00 The impact of WiTT in Nashville 00:04:02 Community as the foundation for scaling 00:05:00 Leadership lessons from growing a market 00:06:01 Investing in people and showing up to serve 00:07:00 Board service, volunteer leadership, and long-term impact 00:07:42 Episode close
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