
AI may live in the cloud, but the infrastructure behind it is very physical: land, power plants, transmission lines, water systems, construction crews—and communities deciding whether they actually want massive data centers in their backyard.In this episode of Signal & Noise, Rio Longacre and Brett House sit down with Dawson Kluesner, Director of External Affairs for the Wyoming Association of Municipalities and Coordinator for the Wyoming Economic Development Association. Dawson sits at a fascinating intersection: he works with the cities and towns evaluating major infrastructure projects while also working alongside the economic-development community trying to attract investment to Wyoming.Wyoming has emerged as an increasingly attractive destination for hyperscale data centers. It has abundant energy resources, available land, a long history as an energy-producing state, and communities looking for ways to diversify their tax bases. But the boom is also generating many of the same concerns appearing around the country: electricity demand, water consumption, noise, environmental impact, public subsidies, infrastructure costs and whether data centers create enough permanent jobs to justify their enormous footprint. Dawson argues that the answer isn't simply to say yes or no to data centers. The real question is whether communities can structure projects so residents are genuinely better off after they arrive.The conversation explores:Why Wyoming has become attractive to data center developers—and why energy availability may now be one of the biggest constraints on AI infrastructure.How Wyoming is trying to protect residential ratepayers, including Black Hills Energy's large-load tariff requiring major industrial customers to pay for the infrastructure needed to serve them. Why water remains one of the biggest concerns Dawson hears at community meetings, and how newer cooling technologies are changing the debate. The economics of data centers: massive construction activity, relatively smaller permanent workforces, property and electricity tax revenue, and the opportunity to diversify Wyoming's economy.The growing demand for electricians, welders, HVAC technicians, plumbers and other skilled trades—and why data center investment could help build a workforce that benefits Wyoming well beyond AI. Nuclear power, natural gas, carbon sequestration, wind and the enormous energy buildout required to support the next generation of computing.Community benefit agreements, tax incentives and what developers should owe the communities hosting these projects.Why opposition to data centers cuts across political lines—and why early, transparent community engagement may matter as much as the underlying technology.Ultimately, Dawson offers a straightforward test for whether Wyoming's data center boom succeeds: not how many facilities get built or how many gigawatts come online, but whether the projects leave local communities financially stronger, with better infrastructure and greater economic capacity without creating unsustainable demands on residents or resources. It's a conversation about AI—but also about energy, economics, infrastructure, public trust and the increasingly difficult question of who should bear the costs of building the physical backbone of the digital economy.Subscribe to Signal & Noise for more conversations at the intersection of media, data, technology and AI.#ArtificialIntelligence #AI #DataCenters #Wyoming #Infrastructure #Energy #EconomicDevelopment #NuclearEnergy #Technology #SignalAndNoise
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