Staying Human with Dr. Vivek Murthy

Atul Gawande: What Dying Teaches Us About How to Live

June 23, 2026·1h 15m
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Are we paying too much attention to how long we live, and too little to how well we live?In this episode of Staying Human, Dr. Vivek Murthy sits down with surgeon, writer, and public health leader Dr. Atul Gawande — author of the landmark book Being Mortal — for a conversation that's part interview, part friendship, and part shared reckoning with what makes a life worth living.Together they explore the question most clinicians were never trained to ask: not how do we keep people alive, but how do we help them live in a way that means something to them? Atul reflects on how Being Mortal reshaped his own understanding of what it means to be a good doctor, and why the most important skill in medicine may be the simplest — asking people what they actually want.Along the way, Vivek and Atul get personal: caring for aging parents, the guilt that comes with it, and the loss of Atul's mother and Vivek's grandmother. They talk about belonging, the future of AI in medicine and the risk of a two-tiered system where human connection becomes a luxury, and the surprising things that make life meaningful — from chocolate ice cream and football to remembering the score in a ping pong game.It's a conversation about what dying can teach us about living, and the questions worth asking the people we love before it's too late.Every episode offers a reflection question inspired by the conversation. Share your thoughts and ideas with us at hello@stayinghuman.us, on our Substack, or leave us a message at 1-833-74-HUMAN. IG @drvivekmurthySubstack vivekmurthy.substack.com/More about your host, Dr. Vivek Murthy https://www.vivekmurthy.com

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