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Join VeggieTales and What's in the Bible? creator Phil Vischer and co-host Skye Jethani (author, speaker, pastor) for a fast-paced and often funny conversation about pop culture, media, theology, and the fun, fun, fun of living a thoughtful Christian life in an increasingly post-Christian culture.
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731: Why You Should Talk to Strangers with Nicholas Epley
"Big Eva" may be fading, but a new generation of online Christian influencers is taking its place. Phil, Skye, and Kaitlyn discuss the rise of "Gig Eva," how digital platforms are reshaping Christian authority, and why accountability to real churches and communities still matters. Then, the number of words people speak each day is dropping as more of everyday life moves online. The crew considers what we lose when convenience replaces even the smallest human interactions. Then, Skye talks with behavioral scientist Nicholas Epley about why conversations with strangers usually go better than we expect. They discuss how small choices to connect with others can make us happier, healthier, and less divided. Also this week, a new explosive ocean discovery. Holy Post Plus: Ad-Free Version of this Episode: https://holypost.substack.com/p/731-why-you-should-talk-to-strangers?r=35kf51&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web&triedRedirect=true 0:00 - Show Starts 0:44 - Theme Song 1:06 - Sponsor - Access Forge - Go to https://www.accessible.faith/ to unlock the first two Belonging by Design lessons and use promo code HOLYPOST to get $200 off the full program 2:10 - Sponsor - Feeding America - Your support puts healthy food within reach, fueling the future for kids and their families. Give now at https://FeedingAmerica.org/SummerHunger 2:52 - Orcas Exploding Sunfish! 9:40 - Big Eva is now Gig Eva 29:43 - Sponsor - World Relief - Update with Matthew Sorens! Help today at http://worldrelief.org/holypostadvocates 34:08 - Humans are talking less! 45:46 - Interview 52:07 - The "Quiet Car" on the Train 59:17 - The Power of Reciprocity 1:08:51 - Testing for Yourself 1:17:07 - Technology's Role in This 1:31:52 - End Credits Links Mentioned in News Segment: Orcas Raming Into Sunfish: https://www.npr.org/2026/07/24/nx-s1-5905327/orcas-ram-sunfish-hard-explodes From Big Eva to Gig Eva: https://firstthings.com/goodbye-big-eva-hello-gig-eva/?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email Humans Speaking Fewer Words: https://www.theatlantic.com/family/2026/07/talking-less-reasons/688074/ Other Resources: A Little More Social: How Small Choices Create Unexpected Happiness, Health, and Connection: https://amzn.to/3RIeF6K Holy Post website: https://www.holypost.com/ Holy Post Plus: www.holypost.com/plus Holy Post Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/holypost Holy Post Merch Store: https://www.holypost.com/shop The Holy Post is supported by our listeners. We may earn affiliate commissions through links listed here. As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases.
- 1 weeks ago1h 32m
730: The Idolatry of Church Growth with Andrew Root
Why was there almost no emphasis on "church growth" before the 1970s, and how does the fixation on it for the last 40 years correspond with the American economy? Skye talks with Andrew Root about his new book, "Baal and the Gods of More," about the link between the modern church growth movement and ancient pagan fertility gods. A new report by Ryan Burge says that for decades those who left the church were turned off by partisan politics and the religious right, but that trend might be changing. Also this week, Brazil blames its poor performance in the World Cup on evangelicals, European evangelicals issue a statement, and an old theory about early Christianity and psychedelic mushrooms is back. Holy Post Plus: Ad-Free Version of this Episode: https://holypost.substack.com/p/730-the-idolatry-of-church-growth?r=35kf51&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web&triedRedirect=true Bonus Interview with Andrew Root: https://holypost.substack.com/p/why-churches-cant-stop-chasing-growth?r=35kf51&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web&triedRedirect=true 0:00 - Show Starts 4:07 - Theme Song 4:30 - Sponsor - AG1 - Heavily researched, thoroughly purity-tested, and filled with stuff you need. Get the AG1 $76 Welcome Pack for free when you order from https://www.drinkag1.com/HOLYPOST 6:01 - Sponsor - BetterHelp - This episode is sponsored by BetterHelp. Give online therapy a try at https://www.betterhelp.com/HOLYPOST and get 10% off your first month! 7:03 - Was Jesus a Mushroom? 12:52 - Brazil Blames Evangelicals for Soccer Failure? 21:40 - Sponsor - Tyndale - To celebrate the NLT's 30th anniversary, Use code CURIOUS30 to receive 30% off any NLT Bible! https://tyndale.com 22:44 - Sponsor - Access Forge - Go to https://www.accessible.faith/ to unlock the first two Belonging by Design lessons and use promo code HOLYPOST to get $200 off the full program 23:47 - Sponsor - Feeding America - Feeding America, led by neighbors! Give now to end hunger at https://www.feedingamerica.org 24:20 - European Evangelicals 49:38 - Interview 54:32- Fertility Gods 1:02:09 - Capitalism and False Gods 1:18:26 - The Rise and Fall of American Growth 1:31:52 - End Credits Links Mentioned in News Segment: Popular Science Posits Jesus was a Psychedelic Mushroom: https://www.popularmechanics.com/culture/a69061008/god-sacred-mushroom-christianity-debate/ Did Evangelicals Ruin Brazil's Soccer Performance? https://religionnews.com/2026/07/17/some-world-cup-fans-are-blaming-brazils-loss-on-evangelicals/?utm_medium=social European Evangelicals Differentiate from American Evangelicals: https://religionunplugged.com/news/european-evangelicals-draw-a-clear-distinction-from-their-american-counterparts?utm_source=flipboard&utm_content=topic/christianity Other Resources: Baal and the Gods of More: Rescuing Church Growth from Idolatry (A Theological Critique of Modern Ministry Metrics and Success-Driven Strategies) by Andrew Root: https://a.co/d/0c0ijKLw Holy Post websi
- 2 weeks ago1h 28m
729: Church Trauma & the Apostle Paul with Scot McKnight
Some of the Apostle Paul's letters in the Bible can be defensive, sarcastic, and even mean. New Testament scholar Scot McKnight says his nasty tone may stem from deep pain. But Paul's trauma wasn't caused by the persecution of nonbelievers but by fellow Christians. He offers Skye an illuminating look into what the apostle can teach us about church trauma today. Mike Erre joins the podcast crew to discuss the declining support for Israel among American Christians, the weird work of VR missionaries, a theory about aliveness that challenges introverts, and a robot that responds when nature calls. Holy Post Plus: Ad-Free Version of this Episode: http://holypost.substack.com/p/729-church-trauma-and-the-apostle 0:00 - Show Starts 0:40 - Kaitlyn Was Summoned Away 3:04 - Sponsor - Rocket Money - Find and cancel your old subscriptions with Rocket Money at https://www.rocketmoney.com/HOLYPOST 4:08- Sponsor - BetterHelp - This episode is sponsored by BetterHelp. Give online therapy a try at https://www.betterhelp.com/HOLYPOST and get 10% off your first month! 5:17 - Self-Driving Toilets! 11:54 - VR Missionaries 20:21 - Sponsor - Feeding America - Your support puts healthy food within reach, fueling the future for kids and their families. Give now at https://FeedingAmerica.org/SummerHunger 20:54 - Sponsor - PolicyGenius - Secure your family's tomorrow so you have peace of mind today. Go to https://www.policygenius.com/HOLYPOST to find the right life insurance for you 22:00 - Sponsor - Access Forge - Go to https://www.accessible.faith/ to unlock the first two Belonging by Design lessons and use promo code HOLYPOST to get $200 off the full program 23:04 - Americans Less Supportive of Israel 28:56 - Prosperity Gospel and Israel 36:10 - Aliveness and Where to Find it 50:19 - Interview 52:30 - Damaged Leaders 1:03:25 - Paul and Trauma 1:15:44 - Prescriptive vs Descriptive 1:27:54 - End Credits Links Mentioned in News Segment: Aliveness: https://benbyfax.substack.com/p/aliveness Christian Support for Israel Plummets: https://religionnews.com/2026/07/09/new-polls-show-plummeting-support-among-faith-groups-for-israeli-government-netanyahu/ Other Resources: Traumatized Church: What Paul's Relationship with the Corinthian Church Teaches Us About Helping Those Who are Hurting by Scot McKnight: https://amzn.to/4pltGYx Holy Post website: https://www.holypost.com/ Holy Post Plus: www.holypost.com/plus Holy Post Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/holypost Holy Post Merch Store: https://www.holypost.com/shop The Holy Post is supported by our listeners. We may earn affiliate commissions through links listed here. As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases.
- 3 weeks ago1h 29m
728: The Political Divide over Matthew 25 plus Tish Harrison Warren
Two members of Congress, one Republican and one Democrat, had a meeting recently where they fundamentally disagreed about the meaning of the sheep and the goats in Matthew 25. Their disagreement has now spilled into the media. Why has this chapter of the Bible become the new dividing line between Christians in the public square? Kaityn interviews Tish Harrison Warren about her new book about Christian resilience and what disillusioned believers can learn from the desert mothers and fathers. And fifty years ago, the media declared 1976 the "Year of the Evangelicals." The Holy Post crew discusses one historian's look back at that year and debates whether it was really the turning point for American evangelicalism. Holy Post Plus: Ad-Free Version of this Episode: https://holypost.substack.com/p/728-the-political-divide-over-matthew 0:00 - Show Starts 1:50 - Theme Song 4:20 - Sponsor - Brooklyn Bedding - Use code HOLYPOST for 30% off sitewide for a great night's sleep! Go to https://www.brooklynbedding.com/HOLYPOST 5:23 - Sponsor - Our Place - Go to https://www.fromourplace.com and use code CURIOUSLY to get 10% off site wide on beautiful cookware! 6:23 - America 250 Celebration 12:44 - The Turning Point of Evangelicalism 28:04 - Sponsor - AG1 - Heavily researched, thoroughly purity-tested, and filled with stuff you need. Get the AG1 $76 Welcome Pack for free when you order from https://www.drinkag1.com/HOLYPOST 29:34 - Sponsor - BetterHelp - This episode is sponsored by BetterHelp. Give online therapy a try at https://www.betterhelp.com/HOLYPOST and get 10% off your first month! 30:37 - Does Matthew 25 Apply to Nations? 46:20 - Interview 49:42 - Weariness 56:30 - Desert Mothers and Fathers 1:04:00 - What is Acedia? 1:19:13 - Become All Flame 1:29:17 - End Credits Links Mentioned in News Segment: Growing Divide Over Matthew 25: https://religionnews.com/2026/07/01/in-congress-a-growing-divide-over-matthew-25/?utm_medium=social Christianity Today on the Turning Point for Evangelicalism: https://www.christianitytoday.com/2026/06/1976-was-a-turning-point-for-evangelicalism-george-marsden-history/?utm_source=flipboard&utm_content=topic/christianity Other Resources: What Grows in Weary Lands: On Christian Resilience by Tish Harrison Warren: https://a.co/d/0bJc9P34 Holy Post website: https://www.holypost.com/ Holy Post Plus: www.holypost.com/plus Holy Post Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/holypost Holy Post Merch Store: https://www.holypost.com/shop The Holy Post is supported by our listeners. We may earn affiliate commissions through links listed here. As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases.
- 4 weeks ago1h 28m
727: Rethinking the Sexual Revolution & America Turns 250 with Robert Tracy McKenzie
The United States is turning 250 this week, but the country is divided about the anniversary. Should the country celebrate or lament? Historian Robert Tracy McKenzie joins Skye to talk about the ongoing fight over how to tell America's story, why we reject nuance, and what he saw at the Rededicate 250 event in Washington, D.C. that made him concerned. Kaitlyn offers her take on a New York Times interview with Louise Perry about rethinking the sexual revolution. Perry argues, as a non-believer, for the recovery of sexual ethics that seem very Christian. What does that say about our culture's fatigue with secularism? Also this week—AI finds proof that your parents were right about the music you listen to, and the World Cup is revealing the decency of average Americans. Holy Post Plus: Ad-Free Version of this Episode: https://holypost.substack.com/p/727-rethinking-the-sexual-revolution Getting Schooled - Weddings 101: https://holypost.substack.com/p/getting-schooled-weddings-101 0:00 - Show Starts 1:50 - Theme Song 2:12 - Sponsor - Sundays Dog Food - Get 40% off your first order of Sundays. Go to https://www.SundaysForDogs.com/HOLYPOST or use code HOLYPOST at checkout. 3:24 - Rededicate 5:12 - World Cup Brings World Together 11:24 - Pop Music's Moral Slide 20:39 - Sponsor - World Challenge - Want to help people around the world? Get involved today at https://worldchallenge.org/HOLYPOST 21:42 - Sponsor - World Relief - Help families overseas and refugees in crisis! When you give now before Easter Sunday, your donation will be doubled! Start your partnership today at https://www.worldrelief.org/holypost 23:08 - New Sexual Revolution? 54:09 - Interview 58:10 - Unblemished America 1:03:15 - Credal or Racial Nation? 1:11:40 - Founding Father's Private Faith 1:19:53 - Wanting a Positive Vision 1:28:08 - End Credits Links Mentioned in News Segment: Louise Perry on the Sexual Revolution: https://www.nytimes.com/2026/06/25/opinion/gender-sexual-revolution-men-women.html Pop Music has Become Less Moral: https://www.newsweek.com/music-has-got-nastier-since-60s-study-says-12119675 Other Resources: How America Gave Up on Its Own History: https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/2026/07/american-history-common-narrative/687301/ Holy Post website: https://www.holypost.com/ Holy Post Plus: www.holypost.com/plus Holy Post Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/holypost Holy Post Merch Store: https://www.holypost.com/shop The Holy Post is supported by our listeners. We may earn affiliate commissions through links listed here. As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases.
- Jun 24, 20261h 35m
726: Reimagining Biblical Politics with Michael Rhodes
Over the last decade, white evangelicals in the U.S. have lost their moral credibility. In response, Peter Wehner says the church should embrace a form of "Christian humanism." The Holy Post crew discusses his article, what he gets right, and why that label may be a barrier for some. Kaitlyn interviews biblical scholar Michael Rhodes about his book,"Reimagining Biblical Politics: What Scripture Says About Public Life and Why It Matters." Rather than looking to specific verses to define our political positions, Rhodes says we must allow all of Scripture to shape our imaginations and then use discernment as we engage our unique political context. Also this week—controversy over the design of the Obama Presidential Center in Chicago, how faith-based apps are gamifying Christianity, and the benefits of talking to dogs. Holy Post Plus: Ad-Free Version of this Episode: https://holypost.substack.com/p/726-reimagining-biblical-politics Bonus Interview: https://holypost.substack.com/p/how-christians-can-live-faithfully 0:00 - Show Starts 2:44 - Theme Song 3:08 - Sponsor - AG1 - Heavily researched, thoroughly purity-tested, and filled with stuff you need. Get the AG1 $76 Welcome Pack for free when you order from https://www.drinkag1.com/HOLYPOST 4:29 - Sponsor - Hiya Health - Go to https://www.hiyahealth.com/HOLYPOST to receive 50% off your first order 5:57 - Talking to Dogs Makes Ya Smart? 11:41 - Obama Presidential Center 23:56 - World Relief Update with Matthew Sorens 38:00 - Sponsor - Feeding America - Feeding America, led by neighbors! Give now to end hunger at https://www.feedingamerica.org 40:00 - Sponsor - World Challenge - Want to help people around the world? Get involved today at https://worldchallenge.org/HOLYPOST 57:22 - Interview 1:04:42 - What Do We Mean by "Politics?" 1:15:40 - The Ambiguity of Esther 1:23:30 - Scripture Transforms Politics 1:34:26 - End Credits Links Mentioned in News Segment: The Commodification of Christianity: https://www.freyaindia.co.uk/p/the-commodification-of-christianity American Christians Face a Choice: https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/2026/06/christian-humanism-trump-choice/687475/ Other Resources: crossRhodes: Reimagining Biblical Politics: https://pod.link/1888014284?view=apps&sort=popularity Holy Post website: https://www.holypost.com/ Holy Post Plus: www.holypost.com/plus Holy Post Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/holypost Holy Post Merch Store: https://www.holypost.com/shop The Holy Post is supported by our listeners. We may earn affiliate commissions through links listed here. As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases.
- Jun 17, 20261h 28m
725: The Cage Match for America's Story plus Nijay Gupta
Last year, the President celebrated his birthday with a military parade. This year, he hosted a UFC cage match on the South Lawn of the White House. It's easy to compare it to the gladiator games honoring the Roman emperor, but Phil asks whether it's a sign that America would rather emulate pre-Christian Roman values than biblical ones. Americans can no longer agree on how to teach American history, so we're not teaching it much at all. Is it possible to recover a shared national story? Nijay Gupta is back to discuss his latest book, "Paul for the World," and why the Apostle would not recognize a modern Christianity that's focused on heaven rather than earth. Also this week—the science behind dad jokes. Holy Post Plus: Ad-Free Version of this Episode: https://holypost.substack.com/p/725-the-cage-match-for-americas-story Bonus Interview: https://holypost.substack.com/p/should-the-church-preserve-ethnic 0:00 - Show Starts 3:12 - Theme Song 3:35 - Sponsor - PolicyGenius - Secure your family's tomorrow so you have peace of mind today. Go to https://www.policygenius.com/HOLYPOST to find the right life insurance for you 4:38 - Sponsor - Rocket Money - Find and cancel your old subscriptions with Rocket Money at https://www.rocketmoney.com/HOLYPOST 5:38 - Science Supports Dad Jokes 14:49 - UFC Fight at the White House 30:45 - Sponsor - Feeding America - Feeding America, led by neighbors! Give now to end hunger at https://www.feedingamerica.org 31:15 - Sponsor - BetterHelp - This episode is sponsored by BetterHelp. Give online therapy a try at https://www.betterhelp.com/HOLYPOST and get 10% off your first month! 32:17 - "American Dream" Finding Cuts 35:02 - What Story is America Telling? 52:16 - Interview 57:46 - Is Social Justice Christian? 1:06:20 - Epicureans and Stoics 1:14:33 - Bonhauffer and the Incarnate Church 1:28:15 - End Credits Links Mentioned in News Segment: Sciences Supports Dad Jokes: https://www.washingtonpost.com/wellness/2026/06/15/science-suggests-cringe-worthy-dad-jokes-may-serve-an-actual-purpose/ No Common American Narrative: https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/2026/07/american-history-common-narrative/687301/ Other Resources: Paul for the World: A Grounded Vision for Finding Meaning in This Life—Not Just the Next (What Paul's Letters Say about Work, Friendship, Money, Wellness, Justice, and More) by Nijay Gupta: https://amzn.to/3RZR8ON Holy Post website: https://www.holypost.com/ Holy Post Plus: www.holypost.com/plus Holy Post Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/holypost Holy Post Merch Store: https://www.holypost.com/shop The Holy Post is supported by our listeners. We may earn affiliate commissions through links listed here. As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases.
- Jun 10, 20261h 27m
724: The Problem with Pagan Masculinity with Zach Wagner
While secular journalists, scholars, and even the Pope are wrestling with big questions about Artificial Intelligence, the war in the Middle East, and what it means to be truly human, the Southern Baptists have decided the most urgent problem in 2026 is banning women from preaching. Phil asks why evangelicals are still fixated on issues from 50 years ago, while other Christian traditions are leading the culture in tackling modern questions. Zachary Wagner, author of "Men of Virtue," joins Skye and Kaitlyn for a roundup of masculine news. Wagner says the excesses of some expressions of feminism have fueled a subculture of male grievance, and that a pagan vision of masculinity is now masquerading as Christian throughout the manosphere. Also this week, nuns are challenging the tech giants, and Google wants permission to "debug" Florida. Holy Post Plus: Ad-Free Version of this Episode: https://holypost.substack.com/p/724-the-problem-with-pagan-masculinity Looksmaxing, Beauty, and Masculinity - Bonus Interview with Zachary Wagner: https://holypost.substack.com/p/looksmaxing-beauty-and-masculinity 0:00 - Intro 2:58 - Theme Song 3:20 - Sponsor - Our Place - Go to https://www.fromourplace.com and use code HOLYPOST to get 10% off site wide on beautiful cookware! 4:22 - Sponsor - AG1 - Heavily researched, thoroughly purity-tested, and filled with stuff you need. Get the AG1 $76 Welcome Pack for free when you order from https://www.drinkag1.com/HOLYPOST 5:48 - Google Mosquitos! 11:27 - Nuns Pressuring A.I.! 14:48 - A.I. Misconduct and Sin 20:15 - Sponsor - Feeding America - Feeding America, led by neighbors! Give now to end hunger at https://www.feedingamerica.org 20:46 - - Sponsor - World Challenge - Get your 30-day devotional free from World Challenge at https://worldchallenge.org/HOLYPOST 21:50 - Sponsor - BetterHelp - This episode is sponsored by BetterHelp. Give online therapy a try at https://www.betterhelp.com/HOLYPOST and get 10% off your first month! 22:49 - Frozen in the Cold War 46:22 - Interview 48:40 - Aspirational Masculinity 59:13 - Are the Fruit of the Spirit Gendered? 1:10:28 - Unified by Antifeminism 1:26:50 - End Credits Links Mentioned in News Segment: Google's Literal Debugging: https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2026/jun/01/google-permission-release-mosquitoes-california-florida Catholic Nuns and Palantir A.I. https://religionnews.com/2026/06/03/catholic-sisters-push-palantir-on-human-rights-as-faith-leaders-rally-in-new-york/ A.I. and Sin https://www.theatlantic.com/culture/2026/06/pope-leo-ai-christian/687388/ Other Resources: Men of Virtue: How the Fruit of the Spirit Forms Male Character in the Modern World (A Guide for Men Seeking Biblical Masculinity, Perfect Father's Day Gift) by Zachary Wagner: https://amzn.to/4uZRL9o Holy Post website: https://www.holypost.com/ Holy Post Plus: www.holypost.com/plus Holy Post Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/h
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