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The Messy Parts is a podcast about the twists, turns, and pivots that shape extraordinary careers—the real messy parts along the way. Host Maryam Banikarim has been a transformative leader across media, hospitality, and tech, with more than 20 years in the C-Suite at companies like Hyatt, NBC, and Nextdoor. She brings deeply honest, vulnerable conversations with members of her influential network, asking the questions on everyone's mind.
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- Today40 min
Rosebud Baker on Chasing Her Dreams: “It Gets Worse With More Success"
"If your goal is to feel completed by success, it's gonna get worse and worse the more successful you get." Comedian and former SNL writer Rosebud Baker joins Maryam for a conversation that goes everywhere — sobriety, motherhood after IVF and miscarriage, growing up the granddaughter of Secretary of State James Baker, and a surprise divorce announcement that even Maryam wasn't expecting. Rosebud talks candidly about learning to operate outside of chaos, what burnout actually feels like once y...
- 6 days ago42 min
Jake Barton Designed the 9/11 Memorial. One Photo Still Makes Him Cry.
Jake Barton designed the 9/11 Memorial Museum. Twenty-five years later, one photograph still undoes him: a young firefighter in the Brooklyn Battery Tunnel, headed toward the towers, in what turned out to be the last picture ever taken of him alive. Jake joins Maryam on the blue couch to talk about the radical choice at the heart of that museum: letting the people who ran out of the burning buildings speak for themselves instead of being spoken for. And about the messier parts of his own stor...
- 1 weeks ago42 min
Jake Barton Designed the 9/11 Memorial. One Photo Still Makes Him Cry.
Jake Barton designed the 9/11 Memorial Museum. Twenty-five years later, one photograph still undoes him: a young firefighter in the Brooklyn Battery Tunnel, headed toward the towers, in what turned out to be the last picture ever taken of him alive. Jake joins Maryam on the blue couch to talk about the radical choice at the heart of that museum: letting the people who ran out of the burning buildings speak for themselves instead of being spoken for. And about the messier parts of his own stor...
- 2 weeks ago38 min
Aged Out, Broke, Homeless at 50: How Ron King Became “Donkey King”
He ran Southern Living and top Time Inc. titles with no college degree — then got fired, and calls it a gift. What followed was darker: broke, aged out of media at 50, and homeless. Ron King, now known as "Donkey King," rebuilt his life running a sanctuary that rescues donkeys from slaughter — 220 of them and counting. In this episode of The Messy Parts, Ron opens up to Maryam about hitting rock bottom twice, the hustle that built (and rebuilt) his career, and the simple mindset shift — "thin...
- 3 weeks ago40 min
“The Value of Your Values" — Why Jeff Jones Quit Uber & Left Millions on the Table
Jeff Jones spent his career as one of the most respected CMOs in America — Coca-Cola, Gap, Target — before making the leap to run Uber's global ride-sharing business under founder Travis Kalanick. Seven months later, at the height of Uber's pre-IPO valuation, he walked away from it all: no job lined up, no stock, no plan. On this episode of The Messy Parts, Jeff sits down with Maryam on the blue couch for his first real interview about what actually happened inside Uber during one of its most...
- 4 weeks ago39 min
Mindy Grossman Worked for Oprah, Barry Diller & Phil Knight — and Says She's Never Been 100% Qualified
Fired at 24. Turned down her dream job at Nike, then took it anyway. Walked into HSN as the eighth CEO in ten years. Mindy Grossman built one of the least likely careers in American business, and in this episode of The Messy Parts she tells Maryam how: leaving college at 19 to move to New York with $1,800, landing her first job by admitting she couldn't take shorthand, buying 2,000 Aeron chairs to prove a broken culture was changing, and converting 30,000 Weight Watchers meetings to virtual i...
- Aug 31, 202610 min
Sex, Xanax & Naked Beaches: 20 Legends Drop the PR Filter
Behind every legendary career is an unfiltered human truth. In this special compilation, 20 of our most notable guests—including Mickey Drexler, Samantha Bee, Blake Mycoskie, Bonnie Hammer, Kim Hastreiter, Sally Susman, Sari Botton, and Baked by Melissa—reveal what happens when the PR guardrails come down. From Bevy Smith’s show-stopping mandate to "have sex, a lot of it," to surprisingly vulnerable confessions about daily tears, imposter syndrome, and surviving a crisis of confidence, these ...
- Aug 24, 202639 min
The Points Guy Couldn't Get His Own Credit Card: Then He Made $28 Million at 28 Years Old (Replay)
Brian Kelly (aka The Points Guy) has been obsessed with credit card and frequent flyer points since childhood. At age 12, his dad challenged him to book a family vacation using only points, and young Brian successfully got his entire family to the Cayman Islands for free. In this episode, Brian tells Maryam about the reality behind his meteoric rise: ruined credit, toxic friendships, launching The Points Guy as a side hustle, becoming a multi-millionaire at 28 years old - and the loneliness t...
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The Messy Parts is a podcast about the twists, turns, and pivots that shape extraordinary careers—the real messy parts along the way. Host Maryam Banikarim has been a transformative leader across media, hospitality, and tech, with more than 20 years in the C-Suite at companies like Hyatt, NBC, and Nextdoor. She brings deeply honest, vulnerable conversations with members of her influential network, asking the questions on everyone's mind.
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