The Recipe with Kenji and Deb

Carla Lalli Says Food Is A Feeling, from Expense Account

September 23, 2026·52 min
Episode Description from the Publisher

Sharing an episode of the new podcast Expense Account. We all know eating out in New York has become an extreme sport. If you treat dining out like a full-time obsession—and care about the scene just as much as what's on the menu—you need to listen to Expense Account.Expense Account uses food as an entry point into bigger conversations about restaurants, culture, taste and how it all relates to life and the world at large.Hosted by J Lee, food critic at Emily Sundberg’s Feed Me media empire, J has one million opinions about food. But since he wants to hear everyone else’s take, J will talk to chefs, writers, musicians, actors and more. Like writer Molly Baz, chef Carla Lalli, and PBS host Pati Jinich. You’ll hear about their best meals and worst meals.Favorite spots around the world. And you might even get a peek inside their fridges to find out how they're really eating. The conversations will start with food, but will always wind up somewhere else, because food is culture, and everybody eats.I’m going to play the first episode for you now. In it, J Lee talks with chef and author Carla Lalli about her journey from Shake Shack to Bon Appetit, her new cookbook, and why we should eat our feelings.Listen to more episodes of Expense Account at https://lnk.to/expenseaccountTR Learn about your ad choices: dovetail.prx.org/ad-choices

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