
Michael speaks with Jessica Tarlov, co-host of The Five on Fox News and author of I Disagree, about how to argue without losing friends. Outnumbered four to one on the most-watched show in cable news, Jessica explains how she makes the truth safe to hear, why she argues with averages instead of anecdotes, and how to decide whether a disagreement is worth having. They discuss: (00:00) Preview(00:40) Her biggest conversion on The Five(05:08) Are we really more divided?(09:06) When one person breaks with the group(12:31) Making the truth safe to hear(16:51) Argue with averages, not anecdotes(21:26) Sowing a little doubt(24:36) Framing numbers and keeping it simple(33:27) Be sharp, not cruel(37:32) When to engage and when to let it go(42:38) How Americans start talking again Get Jessica's book, I Disagree: https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/803493/i-disagree-by-jessica-tarlov/Find Jessica: https://www.instagram.com/jessicatarlov/ Download MacroFactor in the Apple or Google app store. Get 14 days free with code TWOPCT. Visit Two Percent, the #1 health and wellness Substack newsletter: https://www.twopct.com Follow Michael:https://twitter.com/Michael_Easterhttps://instagram.com/michael_easter/https://linkedin.com/in/michael-easter-b208848/https://www.facebook.com/twopcthttps://tiktok.com/@michael_easter6 Host: Michael EasterExecutive Producer: Robbie HiserMusic: The Heater ManagerGraphics: Jackie Philips
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