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On the Bitcoin Takeover podcast you're going to hear the builders and innovators who make the Bitcoin project valuable. It's thanks to their work that the BTC price goes up, and it's their efforts that convince large investors that Bitcoin is the future of money. Here you will find the projects and ideas that will radically improve Bitcoin in the future, presented by the creators and innovators themselves. Time to learn!
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Ever since he first received his first bitcoin in 2013, Joël Valenzuela has been on a quest to use free market electronic cash to pay for everything. Today, he is still unbanked and looking for ways to make instant payments without a bank account. He is best known for working for the DASH cryptocurrency project. But over the years, he's collaborated with plenty of other projects (mostly those related with private payments) and he possesses a wealth of knowledge in terms of adoption, everyday use as money, and user experience. Since Joël practices what he preaches and lives without fiat or banks, he is a bona fide advocate of inconvenience: using ATMs, purchasing gift cards, and trying every workaround that helps him accomplish the mission of never using fiat currencies. 00:00:00 Intro & sponsors: living without banks with Joël Valenzuela 00:02:18 The Vlad Costea handle saga & paying X to keep your name 00:04:20 Where the "Desert Lynx" name actually comes from 00:09:04 Joël's origin story: how Peter Schiff led him to Bitcoin 00:10:16 Growing up on the border & the Mexican peso crisis 00:12:16 First Bitcoin: the Chicago pizza payback of 2013 00:14:27 Silk Road's shutdown & the chaos of the Mt. Gox era 00:18:11 Digital cash vs. hoarding: the sound money mindset 00:20:54 Earning only Bitcoin: barn work, airport rides & Porkfest 00:22:47 Declining a dream political job to go all-in on crypto 00:24:39 The bank drain that made him unbanked for good 00:26:45 Centralization risk & the tyranny of the algorithm 00:31:38 TikTok's eerily accurate (and creepy) surveillance 00:33:32 Sponsor reads & the Cake Wallet Zcash giveaway 00:37:10 Bitcoin to Dash: exploring the whole crypto space 00:41:12 Mike Hearn's "Bitcoin is a failed project" rage quit 00:42:19 Bitcoin's usability failures: the pants & coffee stories 00:46:48 Picking Dash off CoinMarketCap as usable money 00:50:44 Dash founders: Evan Duffield & Amanda B. Johnson 00:55:20 Fluffy Pony, "Dash is trash" & the Miami strip-club drama 00:59:54 Reading the hate comments: the "premine cabal" 01:01:11 Litecoin's alleged inflation bug & Charlie Lee 01:04:07 Did Dash have a premine? The actual definition 01:13:09 Xcoin to Darkcoin to Dash: the name evolution 01:15:32 Master nodes, InstantSend & deterministic finality 01:18:18 The self-funding DAO treasury explained 01:22:01 Max Kaiser, John McAfee & the paid-shill era 01:29:43 What made Satoshi different & the genesis block message 01:33:57 Roger Ver, linear thinking & money as a tool 01:37:39 The 6.15 BTC "generational wealth" meme 01:41:47 BCH Bliss & why small conferences beat the corporate ones 01:46:00 Bitcoin forks: are all these coins really "bitcoins"? 01:50:54 Dash tech history: proof of service & chain locks 01:53:22 Evolution: the enshrined sidechain & DAPI 02:00:24 Adding Zcash-level privacy: the Orchard shielded pool 02:05:17 Orchard vs. Ironwood & the inflation-bug question 02:09:50 Turnstiles: why an inflation bug can't kill Dash 02:11:50 Monero's FCMP++ & why its privacy is "perishable" 02:16:56 Privacy UX, MiCA rules & unshielding to exchanges 02:23:22 Which wallets will support shielded Dash 02:27:34 Umbrel, Lightning & the pain of self-hosting 02:28:44 The for-profit ecosystem & the $15M dev "consortium" 02:34:53 Zcash's comeback: from industry joke to spotlight 02:37:23 Routing around fiat: Thorchain, Maya & DEXes 02:46:59 The number reveal & socializing the giveaway 02:50:02 Privacy as consent, not secrecy 02:51:49 The real challenges of living unbanked 02:58:35 Local AI models & maxing out privacy you don't need 03:04:31 Getting cancelled & how Zooko unblocked Vlad 03:13:03 Demaximizing & the toxic privacy-coin wars 03:21:35 When Zcash nearly built on Monero 03:25:45 Quai Network & transparent "cash-like" privacy 03:32:38 Why Dash focused on payments, not smart contracts 03:36:31 Crypto's consolidation: projects quietly going to zero 03:42:12 XEC, Amaury & bootstrapping off a fork 03:57:47 Monero vs. Zcash: marketing, memes & narratives 04:02:46 Why Joel really lives on crypto: getting real data 04:04:58 "Use it or die": the end of the narrative cycle 04:06:41 The private-equity playbook for buying dying coins 04:11:27 Why Dash is too decentralized to acquire 04:15:49 Which chains get acquired and shut down next 04:24:01 Neptune Cash, Neptune Dash & the first-ever DAT 04:36:57 The Charlie Shrem Dash debit card saga 04:38:46 Tone Vays & other Bitcoiners who dabbled in Dash 04:43:15 Cypherpunk Week Amsterdam & DashCon 04:50:56 Secret Word
S17 E32: Perry E. Metzger on Bitcoin in 2008, Cypherpunk Culture & AI Optimism Time stamps: 00:00:50 - Introducing Perry E. Metzger 00:03:06 - Perry Metzger's Background 00:06:04 - The Cryptography Mailing List's Origins 00:07:36 - "The Code Breakers" & Early Influences in Cryptography 00:11:19 - The Cypherpunks Era and PGP 00:22:08 - The State of Cryptography in 2008 00:24:20 - Satoshi's Bitcoin Announcement on Metzdowd 00:28:52 - Bitcoin's Key Innovations 00:32:39 - Critique of Proof of Work 00:36:21 - Sponsors 00:40:10 - Scalability and Future Challenges 00:48:41 - Initial Reactions to Bitcoin 00:51:21 - Early Criticisms of Bitcoin from James A. Donald & Ray Dillinger 01:05:16 - Perry's Moderation of the Bitcoin Discussion 01:08:16 - Satoshi's Anonymity and Mailing List Logs 01:11:19 - Perry's Comic Book on Computer Science 01:16:13 - The Metzger Dowdeswell Mailing List Today 01:23:04 - Perry's Interest in AI 01:47:03 - AI Advocacy and Combating "Doomers" 01:49:19 - The Extropy Mailing List 01:51:01 - Conclusion and How to Follow Perry Metzger
Alex Waltz is a prominent Bitcoin historian and film maker, who specializes in digging up information from the first months of Bitcoin's existence. Recently, he launched the ”First Bitcoin Miner” project in order to question whether or not Hal Finney truly was the second mining node on the Bitcoin network. In this episode, we talk about his work and some geeky facts about Bitcoin's history. Read Bitcoin: Year One (free download): https://bitcoin-takeover.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/07/Bitcoin-Year-One-Vlad-Costea-Ani-Comic-Book-Demo.pdf Read Alex's research: https://1stbitcoinminer.com Sponsors: Proudly sponsored by Orangerock.com: Trade Without Limits Orangerock is the pro trading terminal that fits in your pocket. Perps and spot, instant cross-chain swaps, and a self-custodial wallet. Trade crypto, stocks, and commodities with up to 40x leverage. Your keys, no surveillance. Get app: https://go.orangerock.com/bitcoin-takeover Sideshift, the place where you can exchange your stablecoins for unconfiscatable, free market money: https://sideshift.ai LayerTwo Labs, creators of BIP300 and builders of the Drivechain. Now they're hard forking Bitcoin to create Ecash too: https://ecash.com Cake Wallet, your privacy-friendly self-custody companion. Enables silent payments, PayJoins & Lightning for Bitcoin. Also supports Monero, Zcash, Zano & more. Available on desktop & mobile: https://cakewallet.com Time stamps: 00:00:41 Introducing Alex Waltz & His Projects 00:03:34 The Philosophy of Art and Filmmaking 00:05:18 Alex's Research for "First Bitcoin Miner" 00:09:28 The First Bitcoin Miners: Hal Finney vs. Dustin Trammell 00:14:37 Early Bitcoin History and Cypherpunk Involvement 00:21:28 Debating Sergio Lerner's "Patoshi" Research 00:25:39 The Technicals of the Patoshi Pattern 00:37:30 Zcash Giveaway Announcement 00:40:10 The Research Process and Dedication 00:43:11 Analyzing Early Bitcoin Block Times 00:50:35 Explaining the Extra Nonce and Network Halts 01:10:18 Satoshi Was in California? 01:25:49 Why This Research Matters 01:36:18 Feedback and Cinematography 01:49:25 The "Satoshi's Don't Exist" Movie Saga 02:00:41 The Bitcoin Community: Then and Now 02:18:43 The "Knots" Fork Controversy & Moral Panic 02:30:39 The Future of Bitcoin Development 02:34:38 Bitcoin's Use Case: Payments vs. Store of Value 02:46:33 What Is The Point of Bitcoin? 02:56:38 Alex's First Bitcoin Purchase 03:00:38 Early Bitcoin Wallets 03:16:20 Mircea Popescu: A Bitcoin Legend 03:48:07 Growing Up in 90s Romania 04:00:48 Final Message: Take Risks and Build
Martin Matejka is the CEO of Firefish, a company which offers a platform where BTC holders can connect with fiat borrowers in order to achieve the ”never sell your bitcoin” status. In this episode, we talk about how these BTC-backed loans work, and also pursue a more philosophical conversation about the purpose of Bitcoin and whether or not it's currently achieving it. Sponsors: Proudly sponsored by Orangerock.com: Trade Without Limits Orangerock is the pro trading terminal that fits in your pocket. Perps and spot, instant cross-chain swaps, and a self-custodial wallet. Trade crypto, stocks, and commodities with up to 40x leverage. Your keys, no surveillance. Get app: https://go.orangerock.com/bitcoin-takeover Sideshift, the place where you can exchange your stablecoins for unconfiscatable, free market money: https://sideshift.ai LayerTwo Labs, creators of BIP300 and builders of the Drivechain. Now they're hard forking Bitcoin to create Ecash too: https://ecash.com Cake Wallet, your privacy-friendly self-custody companion. Enables silent payments, PayJoins & Lightning for Bitcoin. Also supports Monero, Zcash, Zano & more. Available on desktop & mobile: https://cakewallet.com Time stamps: 00:01:14 Intro & sponsors: meet Martin Matejka of Firefish 00:02:11 "Making Bitcoin lending right this time": BlockFi & Celsius PTSD 00:02:53 How the loan marketplace works in a nutshell 00:03:36 The book: "Bitcoin, the Ultimate Collateral" 00:04:31 Why Bitcoin as collateral vs. digital cash 00:05:17 The Elon Musk playbook: borrow, don't sell 00:06:55 "Once I stopped seeing Bitcoin as an investment, life got better" 00:07:24 Being short fiat: the mortgage mindset 00:08:24 Vlad's pushback: spending fuels the system & miner fees 00:09:35 Liquidation risk & timing loans to the market cycle 00:12:14 Staying safe: 50% LTV and "a machine gun in your hands" 00:13:35 Coming soon: loans with no liquidation mechanism 00:15:17 Why Bitcoin-backed loans are still too expensive 00:16:00 Scaling up: 27,000 users, $160M loans, 4,500 BTC 00:17:05 "Almost as much Bitcoin as the Lightning Network" 00:20:22 Why he founded Firefish: a finance guy's contribution 00:21:38 Firefish explained simply: the marketplace model 00:23:12 The tech: escrow, presigned transactions & DLC-like logic 00:24:41 The "zombie apocalypse" recovery transaction 00:26:06 What's the catch? Avoiding the "trust me bro" mandate 00:28:11 Preventing rehypothecation via Bitcoin itself 00:28:45 How Firefish makes money: the origination fee 00:29:33 Promo code BTCTKVR for 30% lower fees on Firefish 00:30:50 Bitcoin-native DeFi vs. bridging & wrapping 00:32:07 Stablecoins, currencies & US availability 00:34:09 Cypherpunk loan settlement & the dispute mechanism 00:37:37 Why 3-of-3 multisig instead of 2-of-3 00:38:31 Oracles, ephemeral borrower keys & how signing works 00:40:01 Lenders need no keys: "my parents can fund loans" 00:40:32 Beating bonds: outperforming bank deposits & tax-free loans 00:42:37 Zcash giveaway & a seed-phrase security lesson 00:45:30 Sponsors: Bitcoin.com News & Layer 2 Labs drivechains 00:48:01 Debate: is Bitcoin just software that should improve? 00:50:58 Austrian economics & "crashing the central banks" 00:51:32 The paper Bitcoin debate: gold's financialization 00:53:29 Trust minimization, Nick Szabo & God protocols 00:55:10 Covenants & understanding both sides of Bitcoin's civil war 01:00:42 The spam/filtering debate & permissionless transactions 01:02:33 Satoshi's Genesis block message & arbitrary data history 01:06:09 "We're stuck debating spam" — limited supply as core value 01:08:15 The underrated educational value of Bitcoin 01:09:21 Where did the newcomers go? ETFs vs. real adoption 01:10:12 How to make Bitcoin cool again & the FTX taint 01:11:46 Eulogy for Paralelni Polis / Institute of Cryptoanarchy 01:15:44 Grandma's savings destroyed by inflation 01:17:05 The wedding money & the car that never came 01:18:03 Inflation is a much deeper problem than the CPI 01:20:24 The worst thing for Bitcoin: losing its identity 01:21:42 "Do you know what Zcash is?" Privacy vs. fixed supply 01:22:42 Competition & shitcoins: the jealousy analogy 01:23:28 Losing dominance & the Bitcoin Cash profitability metric 01:25:11 Sponsor: SideShift.ai for stablecoin swaps 01:26:11 Why try Firefish today? Rates as low as 5% 01:28:38 Closing thoughts & farewell
Grafton Clark is best known in the Bitcoin world for his work at Satoshi Labs and Vexl. Recently, upon discovering vibe coding, he became excited about building everything that he can imagine. Hope this interview will inspire you to build something too!
Josh Swihart is the founder of ZODL: the Zcash Open Development Lab. Basically a for profit reincarnation of the old Electric Coin Company, which inherited the dev teams and projects. During his previous Bitcoin Takeover podcast appearance in November 2024 (S15 E62), Zcash was a struggling privacy project with very little support and a rather disappointing price action. In June 2026, Zcash is the rising star of the cryptocurrency market, with plans to scale to billions of users and ever-improving shielding technology. In this episode, we talk about the good, the bad, and the controversial moments in the recent history of Zcash... and why Bitcoin didn't activate Zerocash yet. Time stamps: 00:01:14 Intro: Josh Swihart returns after 20 months 00:02:07 Why Zcash is "in a class of its own" (and self-defeating) 00:03:28 Shielded note Q: the run on the Orchard pool before Iron Wood 00:05:22 What are shielded pools? Sprout, Sapling, Orchard explained 00:06:26 The Orchard vulnerability found by Taylor Hornby 00:06:48 Why Zcash matters to Bitcoin: Zerocoin, Zerocash, Halo 2 00:09:06 The secret: from near-delisting at $30 to near top 10 00:11:03 Governance battles, killing the dev fund, refocusing ECC 00:13:03 Peacemonger research and focusing on the first 100 users 00:14:09 Keystone, NEAR intents swaps, and shielded pool growth 00:15:23 Reflexivity and the macro case (Canadian truckers, seizures) 00:16:32 Cake Wallet, Vic Sharma, and the ZEC integration recognition problem 00:17:57 The Monero rivalry and the privacy renaissance 00:19:35 "Cypherpunk does not mean criminal": Samourai vs Wasabi 00:23:04 Railgun comparison and why fungibility matters 00:25:02 Zmap, Flexa, and spending shielded ZEC in stores 00:26:21 Buying lunch at Chipotle and a Ford F150 truck with Zcash 00:27:33 Giveaway setup + sponsors 00:30:32 Why is Zcash "lied about a ton"? 00:34:03 Debunking the low anonymity-set myth and DeFi integrations 00:35:48 "Main character syndrome," paid FUD, and the influencer claim 00:38:50 Uncorrelated price + maximalist FUD around the Orchard bug 00:40:40 The ethics of disclosure and Taylor Hornby's character 00:45:03 The security budget problem and Network Sustainability Module 00:46:56 Scaling Zcash: Tachyon, recursion, and off-chain services 00:49:35 Do shielded memos bloat the chain? 00:51:32 The shielded stablecoins / shielded assets debate 00:58:31 Last giveaway call + ZODL phone overheating 00:59:12 New user Q: where's the privacy when you spend? 01:01:02 Shielded vs transparent transactions explained 01:03:22 Number reveal and winners 01:06:39 Crypto Visa/Mastercard debit cards: winning or losing? 01:09:56 Has Bitcoin been co-opted? Adam Back and incentives 01:15:20 What stops Zcash from being co-opted like Bitcoin? 01:19:52 Decentralization and killing the trademark agreement 01:21:31 Many orgs now: Foundation, Shielded Labs, Tachyon, Valor 01:23:21 No funding from exchanges or mining pools 01:26:04 ZODL origin: Balaji, fundraising, and the ECC split 01:29:17 ZODL's business model: 50 bps on swaps 01:30:01 Hardware wallets: Keystone, Passport, Trezor Safe 7 01:34:07 How Slush discovered Bitcoin through Zooko 01:35:37 Zcash ASIC demand and decentralizing mining 01:38:51 ECC wind-down, the Bootstrap settlement, and dev funds 01:42:38 Thoughts on ZNS (Zcash Naming Service) 01:44:47 Living with the FUD and "Zionist coin" conspiracies 01:46:31 Why disclose the bug publicly? Transparency vs trust 01:48:18 Inside the emergency coordination with pools and exchanges 01:49:52 Echoes of Bitcoin's 2013 hard fork 01:51:49 Iron Wood and Tachyon upgrade timelines 01:53:31 Closing: the Zcash dance and where to follow Josh
Kieran Mesquka is a contributor to privacy projects, best known for his work on Railgun for Ethereum. He is also an advocate for freedom-maximizing technologies and a connoisseur of Zero Knowledge privacy. In this episode, we talk about what it's like to build shielded pools and anonymization tools in a political landscape that actively fights against it. Time stamps: 00:01:10 - Introducing Kieran Mesquka 00:02:21 - Kieran's Early Crypto Involvement, GPU Mining 00:03:54 - Discovering Bitcoin 00:06:31 - Transition to Ethereum Smart Contracts 00:10:24 - Motivation for Working on Privacy 00:20:33 - Comparing Tornado Cash and Railgun 00:26:30 - Why Tornado Cash Developers Got in Trouble 00:29:10 - The "Kieran is Satoshi" Joke 00:31:07 - General Online Privacy and Naomi Brockwell 00:33:25 - The Surveillance of Smart Devices 00:43:43 - The Problem with Subscriptions for Hardware 00:46:35 - Building Privacy for Mainstream Adoption 00:51:04 - Podcast Sponsors: Orange Rock, Cake Wallet, SideShift.AI, Layer Two Labs 00:54:49 - Technical Similarities Between Railgun and Zcash 01:00:26 - Opt-in vs. Default Privacy 01:02:37 - Why Bitcoin Lacks Advanced Privacy 01:10:32 - Railgun's Multi-Chain Presence 01:15:05 - The State of Ethereum and Privacy Demand 01:19:13 - Railgun's Elevator Pitch 01:20:47 - Railgun's Transaction Filtering System 01:29:20 - Trusting Zero-Knowledge Proofs 01:36:18 - Future of Privacy Technology 01:40:37 - How to Follow Kieran's Work
Almost 9 years since the big split of the Bitcoin community, it's time to learn more about how the Bitcoin Cash chain developed. Calin Culianu is the creator of Fulcrum, an efficient privacy-preserving SPV client. Steve Thurmond is the most ardent advocate for Cash Stamps: a convenient paper wallet system that's used for gifting. Throughout the episode, more BCH community members will join to have the conversation that you will never hear on any other Bitcoin podcast. Time stamps: 00:01:09 Introducing Calin Culianu & Steve Thurmond 00:02:37 The Evolution of Bitcoin Cash 00:03:59 Who is Behind Bitcoin Cash Now? 00:06:34 Narratives and Misconceptions 00:07:53 Vlad's Perspective on the Fork 00:09:44 Bitcoin's Capture and Speculative Nature 00:11:48 Vlad's Journey with Lightning Network 00:16:07 Blockstream and the "Banker" Conspiracy 00:18:33 The Security Budget Debate 00:22:12 The Problem with IOU Systems like Lightning 00:24:02 Vlad's Disappointment with Onboarding 00:24:58 Ethereum's Rise Amidst Bitcoin's Infighting 00:27:52 The Bankers Won, But Crypto Still Exists 00:32:16 The Future of Bitcoin and Firing Core Devs 00:33:08 The Wall of Consensus in BTC 00:39:19 The Multi-Coin Future 00:42:48 Bitcoin Cash's Development Philosophy 00:49:08 Craig Wright's Controversial Involvement 00:55:16 The Impact of Contentious Forks 00:58:55 The Resilience of Bitcoin Cash 01:02:32 The Value of Open Source Competition 01:08:51 Greg Maxwell's Influence 01:12:00 The Ecash fork 01:25:02 Introducing New BCH Community Members 01:26:38 Building Smart Contracts on Bitcoin Cash 01:34:06 Why UTXO is Better than EVM 01:40:07 Can You Run a BCH Node? 01:41:07 The Flawed "Run a Node" Narrative 01:53:27 The Dangers of RBF and the Importance of 0-Conf 02:05:07 One-Minute Blocks Proposal 02:08:02 Finality and User Experience in Wallets 02:12:13 The "It's Just Money, Bro" Philosophy 02:41:39 What Can You Buy with BCH? 02:48:28 The Permissionless Nature of BCH 02:52:12 The Paradox of Layer Twos 02:57:18 The Stigma of Building on BCH 02:58:21 The Changing Culture of Bitcoin Cash 03:11:35 Ordinals and the "Spam" Debate 03:17:07 Would BCH Still Have a Nice Dev Culture If Michael Saylor Started Buying? 03:28:14 Quantum Computing and Satoshi's Coins 03:42:59 The Tail Emission Debate 03:50:11 The Culture is the Ultimate Defense 03:53:16 The Politicization of Bitcoin Development 03:59:26 Privacy and Fungibility 04:02:21 The Future of Privacy on BCH 04:36:12 Fulcrum: An Electrum Server Implementation 04:38:54 The Litecoin Question 04:49:13 The Difficulty of Recreating Bitcoin's Genesis 04:51:38 The Long-Term Bet on SHA-256 04:54:12 A Break and Introduction to Rosco 05:48:33 CashScript and Smart Contracts on BCH 05:55:22 BCH vs. Ethereum Smart Contracts 06:03:05 The UTXO Stack and Abstraction Layers 06:43:30 The Avalanche Pre-Consensus Question 06:45:51 The "Tax" Fork 07:04:06 The Failed Attack on Bitcoin Cash 07:08:58 The 2018 Inflation Bug Disclosure 07:22:46 The Michael Saylor Phenomenon 07:28:41 The Arrest of Roger Ver 07:39:28 Spending Crypto in the Real World 07:44:22 The End of Crypto-Friendly Spaces in Europe 07:52:05 Prediction Markets and Community Sponsorship 08:08:17 Robin Linus is Jealous of BCH Opcodes 08:09:50 Final Thoughts and Conclusion
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