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A running podcast dedicated to conversation, commentary, and fun. Our team has someone for everything, from pros to amateurs, track nerds to ultra athletes, shoe experts, and coaches. We love discussing all-things running with enough hilarious tangents to keep you on your toes. Like being on your favorite group run with friends. The Relay team of contributors includes Kofuzi, Stefanie Flippin, Lindsey Hein, Laura Thweatt, Tommie Runz, Peter Bromka, Marcus Brown, and Matt Chittim.
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Episode rundown:World Athletics' new qualifying standards and whether the points system is helping or hurting the sportGabby's magnesium-Tums-iron disaster that left her feeling anemic three weeks before Grandma's Marathon The mystery of the 2028 Olympic Marathon Trials location and the Phoenix vs. St. Louis debateGabby's marathon buildup, taper mindset, and why she's celebrating milestones along the way instead of putting everything on race dayThe Enhanced Games fallout and why the whole conversation seems to be fizzling outThe Bandit Grand Prix and creative ways to make track and field more interesting for fansLindsey's unforgettable St. Louis Marathon story featuring Earl from the senior center riding along to St. Louis Media recommended:Dolly All the Time by Annabel Monaghan, Lindsey's summer reading recommendation The Ritual (Gabby referred to it as "the horror movie that's blowing up on social media" and highly recommended it) Sponsors:Kava Haven is a non-alcoholic spirit designed to help you relax and unwind without the sluggish next-day feeling. Whether you mix it with ginger beer, sparkling water, or lime seltzer, it’s an easy summer swap when you want something social and refreshing without alcohol. Use code RELAY15 for 15% off your first order at checkout at http://kavahaven.com/relayThis episode is also supported by ZBiotics! Pre-Alcohol Probiotic is a science-backed drink designed to help you feel better the day after drinking. Take it before your first alcoholic beverage, drink responsibly, and wake up ready for whatever comes next. Use code RELAY26 for 15% off your first order at ZBiotics.com/relay26
This episode is supported by Goodr and Kava Haven.This week on Relay, Lindsey Hein and Peter Bromka are joined by Gabby Hentemann for a conversation that somehow manages to cover elite racing, internet discourse, cold plunges, high school energy in the running world, and the very real experience of becoming “the meme girl” while also trying to compete at a national championship level.Top Topics:Cam Haines vs. Sage Canaday discourse, Gabby Hentemann accidentally becoming the center of running internet drama, the Adidas x Satisfy “circle pit” activation, whether running brands are trying too hard to be cool, Gabby’s fourth-place finish at the USATF 25K Championships, elite runners recognizing her from Instagram before the race, Lindsey’s cold plunge era, what officially counts as a “real run,” and the mental side of high-mileage marathon training.Thank you to our sponsors:Kava Haven is a non-alcoholic spirit designed to help you relax and unwind without the sluggish next-day feeling. Whether you mix it with ginger beer, sparkling water, or lime seltzer, it’s an easy summer swap when you want something social and refreshing without alcohol. Use code RELAY15 for 15% off your first order at checkout at http://kavahaven.com/relayGoodr sunglasses somehow make it easier to actually want to wear sunglasses every day. Lindsey’s currently obsessed with the “Pounce G Double Espresso Effect” pair, and Relay listeners can get $10 off their first order at goodr.com/relay with code RELAY.
This week on Relay, Lindsey Hein and Peter Bromka are joined by longtime friend of the show Jess Hofheimer after her incredible performance at the 2025 Boston Marathon, where she ran a 3:07 PR at age 50. Jess shares the full story behind the race, from navigating hip dysplasia, osteoarthritis, and major training adjustments to rebuilding her strength and redefining what success looks like as a lifelong runner.The conversation dives into everything that went into this breakthrough performance: reducing mileage, increasing strength training, learning to trust effort over pace, and approaching marathon racing with patience and experience rather than fear. Jess also reflects on eating disorder recovery, aging in sport, running through different seasons of motherhood, and what it meant to have her teenage sons cheering for her on Boylston Street. It’s an honest and thoughtful conversation about longevity, resilience, identity, and continuing to chase meaningful goals without losing sight of the bigger picture.Thank you to our sponsors!Noogs makes fueling simple with easy-to-digest chews designed for runners who want reliable carbs without overcomplicating nutrition. Head to NoogsNutrition.com and use code RELAY for 15% off your order.
This week’s guest episode features photographer and creative director Dave Hashim, whose work has become instantly recognizable across the running world. Dave joins Peter Bromka and Erika Kemp to talk about photographing some of the sport’s biggest moments, balancing creative work with endurance training, and recently completing the brutal Marathon des Sables stage race through the Moroccan Sahara Desert.The conversation dives into the reality of race photography, what it takes to capture emotion inside the chaos of marathoning, and why understanding the sport matters just as much as understanding the camera. They also discuss the creative side of running campaigns, the difference between trail and road culture, how photographers and athletes work together on major brand shoots, and why the best running photos often come from the least polished moments.Thank you to our sponsors!Noogs makes fueling simple with easy-to-digest chews designed for runners who want reliable carbs without overcomplicating nutrition. Head to NoogsNutrition.com and use code RELAY for 15% off your order.Kava Haven is a non-alcoholic spirit designed to help you relax and unwind without the sluggish next-day feeling. Whether you mix it with ginger beer, sparkling water, or lime seltzer, it’s an easy summer swap when you want something social and refreshing without alcohol. Use code RELAY15 for 15% off your first order at checkout.
Episode rundown:- Indy Mini weekend and what it’s like announcing vs watching elite races -Rebecca Schmidt’s 70:10 win and course record -Andie Cozzarelli qualifying for the Trials by 3 seconds and the chaos of that finish -How much elite marathoners are actually fueling (100–115g carbs/hour) -Practicing fueling in workouts and why it’s now part of training, not just race day -Long run evolution: from no fuel to “this is actually not that hard if you eat” -Super spikes and how track shoes went from nothing to full tech -Abby Steiner lawsuit and the idea of shoes contributing to career-ending injuries -Trials location debate (Phoenix vs St. Louis and what that means for racing conditions) -Finding non-running joy and perspective when things aren’t going well Media Mentioned:- Sara Hall audiobook (recommended listening format) - Survive and Advance by Tiana Bartoletta - Count My Lies (book) - Your Friends & Neighbors (Apple TV show starring Jon Hamm) - Beef (Netflix series starring Ali Wong) - TikTok content from Masai Russell and Tara Davis-Woodhall This episode is supported by Noogs! Noogs are a simple, great-tasting way to get in carbs and electrolytes before or during your run without overthinking fueling. Head to noogsnutrition.com and use code RELAY for 15% off your first order.
What we discussed:Erika coaching Cynthia Erivo through the London Marathon and meeting her in person for the first time The anxiety of coaching on race day and tracking apps failing mid-race Cynthia’s marathon execution, training swings, and performance relative to her PB Sub-2 marathon breakthrough and reactions to Sawa and Kiplimo’s performances Debate around super shoes, accessibility, and what actually makes runners faster Boston Marathon conditions, surge in fast times, and depth of competitive fields Emerging U.S. men’s marathon depth and recent breakout performances Penn Relays rivalry, NCAA 1500m record, and trash talk between athletes Eugene Marathon “pancake 5K” and the culture of fun race experiences Debate on helping runners at the finish line vs. racing your own race (and DQ implications)
Matt Chittim joins us for this week's group chat! We are so excited to have him back and joining Peter and Lindsey for this week's conversation!Episode Rundown:Lindsey’s honest FOMO, imposter syndrome, and figuring out where Boston fits in her lifePeter’s 16-mile “spectator run” through the course, complete with a B2 flyover momentThe explosion of Boston weekend culture beyond the expo, from pop-ups to live showsRunning fashion confusion, generational style shifts, and feeling wildly out of the loopThe Newbury Street pop-up scene and accidentally meeting Scott JurekShakeouts, community energy, and just wanting to be around “running stuff” all weekendThe sheer scale of Boston now, from 1,000+ person shakeouts to nonstop course traffic“Generational” weather and how it changed everything from pacing to confidenceWomen’s racing depth and the sense that sub-2:20 is about to become the new standardBreakout performances and massive PR jumps in the American fieldSharon Lokedi’s patient, surgical race strategy and late-race dominationJohn Korir’s negative split masterclass and closing speedThe density of the field getting faster, deeper, and more competitive at every levelStories that matter just as much as the pros, including a 50-year-old PR and redefining success
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A running podcast dedicated to conversation, commentary, and fun. Our team has someone for everything, from pros to amateurs, track nerds to ultra athletes, shoe experts, and coaches. We love discussing all-things running with enough hilarious tangents to keep you on your toes. Like being on your favorite group run with friends. The Relay team of contributors includes Kofuzi, Stefanie Flippin, Lindsey Hein, Laura Thweatt, Tommie Runz, Peter Bromka, Marcus Brown, and Matt Chittim.
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