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by Til Luchau & Whitney Lowe
For the practitioner who’s never stopped being curious. Til Luchau and Whitney Lowe bring together leading researchers, master clinicians, and big questions from across bodywork, massage, and manual therapy — exploring not just what we do with our hands, but why it works and how to do it better. Smart, grounded, and genuinely useful conversations for the somatic arts and sciences. For professional practitioners in bodywork, massage therapy, structural integration, chiropractic, myofascial and myotherapy, orthopedics, sports massage, physical therapy, and osteopathy — as well as yoga, strength and conditioning, and allied professions. This podcast is not medical or treatment advice.
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- 5 days ago57 min
180: Fascial Elves and Vikings (with Heike Oellerich & Miriam Wessels)
🎙 Fascial Elves and Vikings (with Heike Oellerich & Miriam Wessels) Some people can fold themselves into almost any position but struggle to find stability; others feel strong and solid but can’t reach their toes—and the difference may start long before either of them ever trained. Most of us were taught to read range of motion as a story about training, habit, and nervous system protection. That story is not wrong, but it may be incomplete. What if some of what we feel under our hands is a connective-tissue starting point people arrive with—one that shapes what they are good at, what injures them, and what they actually need from us? Heike Oellerich and Miriam Wessels, founders of FASZIO in Hamburg, Germany, join Til and Whitney to lay out the model they developed with Robert Schleip: fascial elves and fascial Vikings. As they describe it, elves are loose, fluid, and stretchable, and tend to lose stability quickly; Vikings are dense, powerful, and elastic, and tend to hold. The idea grew out of the two of them arguing for years about what the same exercise was doing in the body—until they concluded they were both right, about different bodies. Where it gets useful is the treatment room. In their account, releasing an elf who has nothing to fall back on can take a person apart; releasing everything on a Viking removes stability they are actively using; and stiffness under the hand does not automatically call for more pressure. They’re also candid about the limits: the evidence is thin, Marfan and Ehlers-Danlos syndromes sit off the scale rather than at its far end, and—as Miriam puts it—at the end, we don’t know anything. It stays what they say it is: a useful concept, not a diagnosis. ✨ We talk about: • Where the elf and Viking idea came from: two colleagues arguing for years about what one exercise does • What an elf is, what a Viking is, and why they frame it as a scale rather than two boxes • Why they traded Robert Schleip’s “temple dancer” for the elf—and why temple dancers may be stiffer than we imagine • Mixed constitutions: Viking above the waist, elf below—and what they say that changes • Why elves may lose stability fast, and why Vikings may be the ones who need the yoga class • Releasing an elf who has no stability to fall back on—and how that can take someone apart • Working with a Viking without releasing the stability they’re actually using • Why stiffness doesn’t automatically call for deeper pressure—and what happens when we assume it does • Language that lands: clear, practical instruction for the client who thinks before feeling • The claim that tissue type travels with temperament—the most intriguing and least established part of the model • Hypermobility and proprioception, and where the usual stereotype may break down • “It’s only a concept”: what the evidence supports, what remains speculation, and why pathology sits off the scale entirely • “Love them all”—responding to the person on the table rather than to the catalog of techniques. ✨ A note on where this sits: Elves and Vikings is a working model, not an established finding—as Heike and Miriam say themselves. Some of what they describe, including fascia as the tissue that holds emotional history, goes beyond what current research supports. We let the model be laid out whole rather than pressing each claim in the moment; take it as a lens that may sharpen what you notice, and hold the mechanisms loosely. ✨ And tell us what happened: Are you an elf, a Viking, or neither—and how has that gone for you, in your own body and in your work? Email us—we’d love to hear it. ✨ Resources: • FASZIO—Heike Oellerich and Miriam Wessels’ fascia training and education: https://faszio.de • FYTT location, Hamburg—classes and trainings, with English pages: https://fytt-location.de/en/ • Miriam Wessels: https://miriamwessels.de • FASZIO on Instagram: https://instagram.com/faszio • Der Faszien-Code, Robert Schleip, Heike Oellerich, and Miriam Wessels (in German): https://www.amazon.de/dp/3742325132 🌱 Sponsor Offers: • Jane – Try it free for one month with code THINKING1MO at https://a-t.tv/jane • ABMP – Save on new membership at https://abmp.com/thinking • Books of Discovery – Save 15% with code thinking at https://booksofdiscovery.com • Advanced-Trainings – Try one month free of the A-T Subscription with code thinking at https://a-t.tv/subscriptions • Academy of Clinical Massage – Grab Whitney's free Assessment Cheat Sheet at https://academyofclinicalmassage.com/chea
- 2 weeks ago55 min
179: Nerve Pain: Stop Blaming Compression (with Whitney Lowe & Til Luchau)
🎙 Nerve Pain: Stop Blaming Compression (with Whitney Lowe & Til Luchau) Ask almost any manual therapist what they learned about nerves in school, and you get some version of the same answer: not much. Most of us were handed the wiring model. A nerve is a cable, it carries a signal, and there are two ways it goes wrong — something presses on it, or something pulls on it. It's a tidy picture, it's most of what our field has run on for decades, and it leaves out nearly everything that makes a nerve a nerve. Whitney and Til go under the sheath. A peripheral nerve turns out to be a living organ with its own blood supply, its own nerve supply, a fascial architecture that mirrors muscle, and a slow river of axoplasm moving proteins the length of an axon that may run three feet from your sacrum to your big toe. Once you see it that way, the clinical picture changes: the first thing a little compression does isn't block a signal, it stalls venous return, and the chemistry that follows is a big part of what your client actually feels. They get practical about what that means on the table — why there's an argument for getting on nerve problems sooner rather than waiting and seeing, why tensioners make better tests than treatments, why freeing the neighborhood usually beats going after the nerve itself, and why nerves respond to whispers rather than shouting. Along the way: fat wallet syndrome, updated for the age of the back-pocket phone; a rat pulling a lever for food, and the gentle hands-on work that kept it from developing nerve fibrosis; an enzyme sequestered since fetal development that can cause excruciating back pain while leaking out of a disc injury that may barely show up on imaging; a young Whitney in an Atlanta medical bookstore, broke, deciding to spring for a blue book called Mobilisation of the Nervous System; and a likely explanation for why your client feels it downstream of the problem. ✨ We talk about: - Why nerves got so little airtime in our training — and why the field is expanding into them now - Nerves as living organs: endoneurium, perineurium, epineurium, and why the architecture parallels muscle - Vasa nervorum and nervi nervorum — a nerve's own circulation, and its own sensation - The pressure sequence: venous flow stalls first, then arterial, then intraneural — and the "toxic soup" that follows - Neurapraxia, axonotmesis, neurotmesis — and why a damaged axon regrows at roughly a millimeter a day, about an inch a month - The argument for early treatment: heading things off before neuropathic pain turns nociplastic - Axonal transport, axoplasm, and double crush — what happens when you step on the garden hose - Geoffrey Bove's research: gentle, non-specific manual therapy that prevented nociceptor activity and neural fibrosis in a rat model - Tensioners vs. sliders — why one is the better test and the other the better treatment - Treat the container first: freeing a nerve's surroundings before mobilizing the nerve - A tour of the usual bottlenecks — scalene triangle, costoclavicular space, subpectoral, cubital tunnel, pronator teres, carpal tunnel - And below the belt: disc margins, deep rotators, the hamstring septum, the peroneal (fibular) division at the lateral knee, tarsal tunnel, and Baxter's neuropathy - Pronator teres or carpal tunnel? What night pain and pain location tell you - PLA2 and the leaking disc: severe nerve pain with little or nothing to see on imaging - Local and unilateral vs. bilateral and systemic — a fast screening principle, plus diabetes, chemotherapy, and thyroid on the list - The red flags you stop everything for: bilateral leg symptoms, saddle anesthesia, bowel or bladder changes - Why symptoms usually show up distal to the site of compression — and why that's a guideline, not a rule - Whispers, not shouting: less force, slower pace, and the gardener rather than the heavy equipment operator ✨ And tell us what happened: when you backed off the pressure and worked the nerve's neighborhood instead, what changed? Email us — we'd love to hear it. ✨ Resources: - David Butler, Mobilisation of the Nervous System — the classic that put neural mobilization into practitioners' hands - David Butler & Lorimer Moseley, Explain Pain: https://www.noigroup.com - Michael Shacklock, Clinical Neurodynamics - Bove GM, et al. "Manual therapy prevents onset of nociceptor activity, sensorimotor dysfunction, and neural fibrosis induced by a volitional repetitive task." PAIN, 2019: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/30461558/ - Upton & McComas (1973), the original double crush paper in The Lancet - Trail Guide to the Body, 7th edition — with a new primer on the nervous system: https://booksofdiscovery.com - Whitney's assessment and clinical reasoning resources: <a href='https://academyofclin
- Sep 2, 202630 min
178: Menopause, Pain, and Bodywork (with Ruth Werner)
🎙 Menopause, Pain, and Bodywork (with Ruth Werner) What if midlife achiness isn’t simply aging—and isn’t necessarily an injury that needs fixing? Menopause can affect far more than temperature. As hormones shift, sleep, mood, cognition, bone and cardiovascular health, pain, and tissue tolerance may all change. Yet most hands-on practitioners received little or no training about what this means for the people on their tables—or for practitioners going through menopause themselves. Pathology specialist Ruth Werner joins Til and Whitney to separate what we know from what we merely assume. They explore why hot flashes remain surprisingly mysterious, how declining estrogen may intersect with inflammation and musculoskeletal pain, and whether naming a “musculoskeletal syndrome of menopause” improves recognition or risks turning menopause into a catch-all explanation for midlife symptoms. Most importantly, they bring the conversation into the treatment room: adjusting expectations, avoiding unnecessary overwork, accounting for medications and longer-term health changes, and recognizing that listening and thoughtful support may be as valuable as anything we do with our hands. They also make room for menopause as more than loss or disruption—for many, it can be a passage into greater maturity, clarity, creativity, and freedom from others’ expectations. ✨ We talk about: • Why menopause is a normal transition, not a disease—and why its effects can still be profoundly disruptive • Perimenopause versus menopause, and why the transition can affect decades of a person’s life • What may be happening during a hot flash—and how much remains unknown • The difficult overlap between menopause, aging, pain, and injury • Estrogen’s possible roles in inflammation and musculoskeletal health • The promise and limitations of the term “musculoskeletal syndrome of menopause” • Practical session considerations: temperature, osteoporosis, cardiovascular health, medications, and tissue sensitivity • Why changing our expectations may matter more than trying to “correct” hormonal effects • Listening, validation, and the therapeutic alliance when clients feel dismissed elsewhere • Menopause as a potentially powerful, creative, and liberating stage of life. 🎓 Continue with the complete course: This episode offers a useful overview and key takeaways. Ruth’s complete 85-minute course, Menopause for Bodyworkers, goes deeper into the physiology, symptoms, treatment options, research, and hands-on implications. It includes the full presentation and discussion, course handout, quiz, and one continuing-education credit. Purchase it individually—or access it at no additional cost with an Advanced-Trainings subscription—at https://advanced-trainings.com. ✨ Resources: • Ruth Werner’s courses, writing, and resources: https://ruthwerner.com • I Have a Client Who… Pathology Conversations with Ruth Werner: https://ruthwerner.com/podcast/ • Vonda Wright and colleagues, “The Musculoskeletal Syndrome of Menopause”: https://doi.org/10.1080/13697137.2024.2380363 • Advanced-Trainings courses and subscription library: https://advanced-trainings.com 🌱 Sponsor Offers: • Jane – Try it free for one month with code THINKING1MO at https://a-t.tv/jane • ABMP – Save on new membership at https://abmp.com/thinking • Books of Discovery – Save 15% with code thinking at https://booksofdiscovery.com • Advanced-Trainings – Try one month free of the A-T Subscription with code thinking at https://a-t.tv/subscriptions • Academy of Clinical Massage – Grab Whitney's free Assessment Cheat Sheet at https://academyofclinicalmassage.com/cheatsheet ✨ Watch the video / connect with us: • YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@AdvancedTrainings/podcasts • Whitney Lowe – https://academyofclinicalmassage.com | https://facebook.com/WhitneyLowe | https://twitter.com/whitneylowe • Til Luchau – https://advanced-trainings.com | https://facebook.com/advancedtrainings | https://instagram.com/til.luchau 📧 Email us: info@thethinkingpractitioner.com The Thinking Practitioner P
- Aug 19, 202658 min
177: Clinical Reasoning, or Clinical Improvisation? (with Whitney Lowe & Til Luchau)
🎙 Clinical Reasoning, or Clinical Improvisation? (with Whitney Lowe & Til Luchau) Every good protocol, recipe, or routine is designed to be outgrown. The trouble is that almost nobody tells you when. Protocols are how most of us learned: a sequence, a recipe, a named technique for a named condition. They reduce cognitive load when you’re new, they keep you and your client safe, and they let you know what to do next. And then, at some point, they start to get in the way — because real clients are complicated, and they rarely arrive looking like the textbook. Whitney and Til work through what they’re calling the protocol paradox: why structure is essential early on, why it has to loosen for real clinical skill to develop, and how to tell which side of that line you’re standing on. They get practical about it too — how to catch the moment a routine is running you instead of the other way around, what to do when the technique you were taught doesn’t work or makes things worse, and why every hunch and every thing you feel under your fingers counts as assessment data. Along the way: a young Rolfer told that moving arm work earlier in the series “speaks of hubris”; a Sufi sect that shook their left foot for generations because the founder had a sticky sandal; Ida Rolf’s cook-versus-chef distinction; Whitney and Til comparing notes on the difference between detective work and flower arranging; and how AI tutors might finally solve continuing education’s oldest problem — the 20-year-old new grad sitting next to the nurse with 20 years in. ✨ We talk about: • What protocols actually do for beginners — cognitive load, safety guardrails, and a sense of belonging • A practical test for whether you’ve outgrown one: habit, protocol, or an actual reason for this person? • What to do when the neck technique you learned doesn’t work — or causes a reaction • Assessment as an ongoing loop, not an intake ritual: “it’s all assessment” • Symptom chasing vs. detective work — and why the leg that hurts often isn’t where the story starts • Til’s reframe: a flower arrangement of what the client brings you, rather than a Jenga tower of stacked reasoning • Technique narratives that outlived the physiology that was supposed to explain them • Stories from the Rolf legacy: orthodoxy vs. reform, and the principles-based experiment that didn’t survive contact with beginners • The massage school that turned down an experienced teacher for being too experienced • Clinical reasoning — or clinical improvisation? Two names for the same advanced skill • The confidence paradox: you need enough certainty to act, and enough openness to be wrong • Scales, Coltrane, and why “improvisation” never meant winging it • Newtonian and quantum, both true at once — the physics analogy for holding two models at the same time • Culture and structure: Swiss students who needed the notebook first (and then shuffled its pages), shakuhachi players with no tradition of improvising, and Singapore buying its way back to innovation • A clinical reasoning skill to try this week. ✨ And tell us what happened: when you paused at that moment of not-knowing, what came next? Email us — we’d love to hear it. ✨ Resources: • Dr. Ida Rolf Institute: https://rolf.org • Ida Rolf’s Ten Series — the “recipe,” and the decades of debate about it • Esalen Institute — “get out of your head and come to your senses”: https://www.esalen.org • Cognitive load theory and what it means for hands-on teaching • Paul St. John and the neuromuscular therapy community • Trail Guide to the Body, 7th edition (Books of Discovery): https://booksofdiscovery.com • Whitney’s Socratic AI tutors and personalized learning paths: https://academyofclinicalmassage.com • Til’s trainings, CAMT certification, and subscription library: https://advanced-trainings.com 🌱 Sponsor Offers: • Jane – Try it free for one month with code THINKING1MO at https://a-t.tv/jane • ABMP – Save on new membership at https://abmp.com/thinking • Books of Discovery – Save 15% with code thinking at https://booksofdiscovery.com • Advanced-Trainings – Try one month free of the A-T Subscription with code thinking at https://a-t.tv/subscriptions • Academy of Clinical Massage – Grab Whitney’s free Assessment Cheat Sheet at https://academyofclinicalmassage.com/cheatsheet ✨ Watch the video / connect with us: • YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@AdvancedTrainings/podcasts • Whitney Lowe – <a href='http
- Aug 5, 20261h 3m
176: Becoming Friends with Movement (with Nuria Bowart)
🎙 Becoming Friends with Movement (with Nuria Bowart) 📌 Save the date: December 12–13, 2026 in Boulder, Colorado — as a result of their discussion here, Til and Nuria are teaching a collaborative workshop for bodyworkers, hands-on and moving, both. Details to come at https://advanced-trainings.com Tell Nuria you’re “not really a mover” and she won’t argue. She’ll just say: maybe you’ve forgotten. Most of us learned to work on bodies that hold still. Nuria Bowart — dancer, movement artist, Certified Rolfer, and a Mestra in Capoeira — lives at the opposite pole, where the body is always moving, listening, and playing. Til sits down with her to explore a deceptively simple question: how can those of us who work with our hands become better friends with movement — not as one more thing we prescribe, but as listening, relationship, play, and a way of being more at home in ourselves? Along the way they get into Fascial Intelligence, the Axis Syllabus, Contact Improvisation, and Capoeira — and what each one teaches about touch, agency, aging, and befriending the unknown. ✨ We talk about: • Why “maybe you’ve just forgotten” is Nuria’s answer to anyone who doesn’t think of themselves as a mover • Fascia as a constellation of intelligences — and listening as the core point of access • What changes when we start with the body’s design and options, instead of fixing • What Contact Improvisation reveals about weight, gravity, and arriving together in the present moment • Capoeira as a healing art: play, risk, vulnerability, and responding creatively to danger • Aging as a “mystery school” — and movement as the micronutrient of longevity • A simple practice for the week: finding the moment you don’t know what to do, and staying there to listen ✨ Resources: • Nuria’s website: https://www.nuriabowart.com • Nuria on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/nuriabowart • Berkeley Capoeira Collective: https://berkeleycapoeira.com • The Field Center, Vermont • The Axis Syllabus: https://www.axissyllabus.net | US events: https://axissyllab.us • Axis Syllabus literature and texts: https://www.axissyllabusforum.org/literature • Axis Syllabus socials: https://www.instagram.com/axissyllab.us | https://www.facebook.com/AxisSyllabusResearchMeshwork • Frey Faust, founder of the Axis Syllabus • Bonnie Bainbridge Cohen & Body-Mind Centering; Sensing, Feeling, and Action (Contact Quarterly) • Nita Little & the Institute for the Study of Somatic Communication — hear her in episode 140 of The Thinking Practitioner 🌱 Sponsor Offers: • Jane – Try it free for one month with code THINKING1MO at https://a-t.tv/jane • ABMP – Save on new membership at https://abmp.com/thinking • Books of Discovery – Save 15% with code thinking at https://booksofdiscovery.com • Advanced-Trainings – Try one month free of the A-T Subscription with code thinking at https://a-t.tv/subscriptions • Academy of Clinical Massage – Grab Whitney’s free Assessment Cheat Sheet at https://academyofclinicalmassage.com/cheatsheet ✨ Watch the video / connect with us: • YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@AdvancedTrainings/podcasts • Whitney Lowe – https://academyofclinicalmassage.com | https://facebook.com/WhitneyLowe | https://twitter.com/whitneylowe • Til Luchau – https://advanced-trainings.com | https://facebook.com/advancedtrainings | https://instagram.com/til.luchau 📧 Email us: info@thethinkingpractitioner.com The Thinking Practitioner Podcast is intended for professional practitioners of manual and movement therapies — bodywork, massage therapy, structural integration, physical therapy, osteopathy, and similar professions. It is not medical or treatment advice. Rolfing® is a registered service mark of the Dr. Ida Rolf Institute®.
- Jul 22, 202655 min
175: The Affection Question (with Kory Floyd)
🎙 The Affection Question (with Kory Floyd) How many of your clients come to you, week after week, not just for their shoulder or their low back — but because yours may be the one space in their life where they feel truly touched, attended to, and seen? Roughly 40% of people report not getting enough affection in their lives. And research suggests that for our older clients, that number is likely even higher. To explore what that means for our work, Til sits down with Dr. Kory Floyd — professor and chair of human development at Washington State University, and one of the world’s leading researchers on affection and human connection. He created Affection Exchange Theory, wrote The Loneliness Cure along with more than a dozen other books, and makes a striking case that affection isn’t a luxury or a nicety — it’s a biological need with measurable consequences for our health. Drawing on his own recent experiences of loss and loneliness, Til turns toward something that sits underneath almost everything we do as bodyworkers but that we rarely name out loud: the simple, profound human need to be touched, cared for, and connected to. ✨ We talk about: • Affection deprivation — the gap between the affection we need and what we actually receive, and why roughly 40% of people report not getting enough • Why age (not gender, education, or geography) is the strongest predictor — and what that means for our older clients • How deprivation erodes our sense of safety, fueling hypervigilance, poor sleep, and a weakened immune response • Why — to the body — professional touch and intimate touch aren’t so different, as long as it feels safe • What lives inside the therapeutic “boundary”: validation, normalizing, listening, attunement, and a felt sense of being seen • Transference, counter-transference, and the difference between "genuine" affection and what Kory calls being “affection-adjacent” • Being “touched out” — and why the giver of affection may benefit even more than the receiver • Each person’s range of tolerance, why too much touch can also be aversive, and why attunement matters more than quantity • Touch as the first sense to develop and the last to fade — and why it’s the most essential to our survival • Boundaries that keep the heart open, and why our table may be the one place a client truly feels heard ✨ Resources: • Kory Floyd’s book, The Loneliness Cure • Learn more about his research at koryfloyd.com 🌱 Sponsor Offers: • Jane – Try it free for one month with code THINKING1MO at a-t.tv/jane • ABMP – Save on new membership at abmp.com/thinking • Books of Discovery – Save 15% with code thinking at booksofdiscovery.com • Advanced-Trainings – Try one month free of the A-T Subscription with code thinking at a-t.tv/subscriptions • Academy of Clinical Massage – Grab Whitney’s free Assessment Cheat Sheet at academyofclinicalmassage.com/cheatsheet ✨ Watch the video / connect with us: • YouTube: youtube.com/@AdvancedTrainings/podcasts • Whitney Lowe – academyofclinicalmassage.com | facebook.com/WhitneyLowe | twitter.com/whitneylowe • Til Luchau – advanced-trainings.com | facebook.com/advancedtrainings | instagram.com/til.luchau 📧 Email us: info@thethinkingpractitioner.com The Thinking Practitioner Podcast is intended for professional practitioners of manual and movement therapies — bodywork, massage therapy, structural integration, physical therapy, osteopathy, and similar professions. It is not medical or treatment advice.
- Jul 8, 202651 min
174: How to Bend Time (with Til Luchau & Whitney Lowe)
🎙 How to Bend Time (with Til Luchau & Whitney Lowe) There’s a moment in many good sessions when the clock stops mattering — breathing deepens, your hands settle, and time itself seems to change. Til recently wrote about this as “bending time,” and here he and Whitney explore it as a practical, therapeutic part of hands-on work. They get into how time perception is tied to body state, attention, and interoception; how the practitioner’s own state sets the tempo; and how to work slowly without losing focus, while still respecting the real limits of a 30-, 60-, or 90-minute session. ✨ Topics: • What that timeless shift feels like from the practitioner’s side • Why the practitioner often enters the state first — and how the client entrains to it • Timelessness vs. clock-watching: why it’s not the same as zoning out or falling asleep • Interoception, age, and “clock speed”: why our sense of duration is so elastic • Meeting clients at their rhythm before inviting a shift (follow, follow, lead) • Jan Sultan’s “most important move in Rolfing” — keeping the big-picture overview • Landing the plane: giving clients a heads-up to ease the transition out • Slow doesn’t mean vague: clearer attention, better timing, realistic plans • Presence and compassion as part of skill — and the people hardest to love • A this-week experiment: pause and feel your own body before you touch ✨ Resources: • Til Luchau, “Bending Time: The Therapeutic Power of Timelessness,” Massage & Bodywork magazine (Somatic Edge column) — https://www.abmp.com/massage-and-bodywork-magazine/issues/summer-2026/bending-time • Marc Wittmann, “The Inner Experience of Time,” Philosophical Transactions of the Royal Society B (2009) • E. P. Thompson, “Time, Work-Discipline, and Industrial Capitalism,” Past & Present (1967) • Fantastic Voyage (1966) — the “miniature journey inside the body” film referenced in the episode 🌱 Sponsor Offers: • Jane – Try the Jane practice management app free for one month with code THINKING1MO at https://a-t.tv/jane • Deep Roots Massage & Bodywork – Save 10% on continuing education with code THINKING at https://deeprootsmb.com • ABMP – Save $24 on new membership at https://abmp.com/thinking • Books of Discovery – Save 15% with code thinking at https://booksofdiscovery.com/ • Advanced-Trainings – Try one month free of the A-T Subscription with code thinking at https://a-t.tv/subscriptions/ • Academy of Clinical Massage – Grab Whitney’s free Assessment Cheat Sheet at https://academyofclinicalmassage.com/cheatsheet ✨ Watch the video / connect with us: • Whitney Lowe – https://academyofclinicalmassage.com | https://facebook.com/WhitneyLowe | https://twitter.com/whitneylowe | https://www.youtube.com/@whitlowe • Til Luchau – https://advanced-trainings.com | https://facebook.com/advancedtrainings | https://instagram.com/til.luchau | https://www.youtube.com/@AdvancedTrainings/podcasts 📧 Email us: info@thethinkingpractitioner.com The Thinking Practitioner Podcast is intended for professional practitioners of manual and movement therapies — bodywork, massage therapy, structural integration, physical therapy, osteopathy, and similar professions. It is not medical or treatment advice. Rolfing® is a registered trademark of the Dr. Ida Rolf Institute.
- Jun 24, 202653 min
173: Recognizing & Touching Trauma (with Dr. Peter Levine) Listener Favorite
🎙 Recognizing & Touching Trauma (with Dr. Peter Levine) By popular demand! Originally aired as Episode 108, Til’s conversation with Dr. Peter Levine quickly became one of our most listened-to episodes ever — and it’s easy to hear why. The developer of Somatic Experiencing®, bestselling author of Waking the Tiger, and student of Ida Rolf shares how trauma lives in the body, how hands-on practitioners can recognize it, and how we can be most helpful when it shows up on our tables. Whether you missed it the first time or you’re ready for a second listen, this one rewards a revisit. ✨ Topics: • How bodyworkers can recognize trauma as it’s held in the body — bracing, breath holding, and the “snapshot” of past responses • The vagus nerve and gut-brain feedback loops: why 80% of its fibers carry signals from body to brain, and how to send the “all clear” • What wild animals and NASA astronauts taught Dr. Levine about resilience and bouncing back • Why pushing too hard backfires: “talking to the shoulders” with patient, supportive touch instead of forcing change • Dr. Levine’s evolving view that Ida Rolf was “largely correct” about fascia — and how nervous system and tissue work fit together • The four women who shaped his work: Charlotte Selver, Magda Proskauer, Ida Rolf, and Mira Rothenberg • Trauma as “what happens in the absence of an empathetic other” — and how practitioners create relative safety • Scope of practice: where bodyworkers’ trauma work ends and psychotherapy begins • Healing rituals, shamanic traditions, and why community matters in trauma recovery • Practitioner self-care, burnout, and Dr. Levine’s end-of-day river ritual ✨ Resources: • Somatic Experiencing® International — trainings and practitioner directory: https://www.somaticexperiencing.com • Peter A. Levine, Waking the Tiger: Healing Trauma • Peter A. Levine, An Autobiography of Trauma: A Healing Journey • Mira Rothenberg, Children with Emerald Eyes 🌱 Sponsor Offers: • Jane – Try the Jane practice management app free for one month with code THINKING1MO at https://a-t.tv/jane • Deep Roots Massage & Bodywork – Save 10% on continuing education with code THINKING at https://deeprootsmb.com • ABMP – Save $24 on new membership at https://abmp.com/thinking • Books of Discovery – Save 15% with code thinking at https://booksofdiscovery.com/ • Advanced-Trainings – Try one month free of the A-T Subscription with code thinking at https://a-t.tv/subscriptions/ • Academy of Clinical Massage – Grab Whitney’s free Assessment Cheat Sheet at https://academyofclinicalmassage.com/cheatsheet ✨ Watch the video / connect with us: • Whitney Lowe – https://academyofclinicalmassage.com | https://facebook.com/WhitneyLowe | https://twitter.com/whitneylowe | https://www.youtube.com/@whitlowe • Til Luchau – https://advanced-trainings.com | https://facebook.com/advancedtrainings | https://instagram.com/til.luchau | https://www.youtube.com/@AdvancedTrainings/podcasts 📧 Email us: info@thethinkingpractitioner.com The Thinking Practitioner Podcast is intended for professional practitioners of manual and movement therapies — bodywork, massage therapy, structural integration, physical therapy, osteopathy, and similar professions. It is not medical or treatment advice. Rolfing® is a registered trademark of the Dr. Ida Rolf Institute.
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Psychiatry & Psychotherapy Podcast
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Treated with Dr. Sara Szal
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The Intimate Marriage Podcast, with Intimacy Coach Alexandra Stockwell, MD
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The Evolving Wellness Podcast with Sarah Kleiner Wellness
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A nurse practitioner shares science-based strategies for managing midlife hormones, menopause, and women's health.
The Art of Being Well
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The Balanced, Beautiful and Abundant Show - Rebecca Whitman
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Culture Apothecary with Alex Clark
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The Unstuck High Performer Podcast - Hypnotherapy and Mindset Coaching for High-Performers
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About The Thinking Practitioner
For the practitioner who’s never stopped being curious. Til Luchau and Whitney Lowe bring together leading researchers, master clinicians, and big questions from across bodywork, massage, and manual therapy — exploring not just what we do with our hands, but why it works and how to do it better. Smart, grounded, and genuinely useful conversations for the somatic arts and sciences. For professional practitioners in bodywork, massage therapy, structural integration, chiropractic, myofascial and myotherapy, orthopedics, sports massage, physical therapy, and osteopathy — as well as yoga, strength and conditioning, and allied professions. This podcast is not medical or treatment advice.
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