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- 3 days ago1h 5m
What If You Haven’t Found Your Limit Yet? | EP 801
Ryan Lange thought nine years of ultrarunning had given him a pretty good idea of his limits, until mile 88 of the Summit 200 changed everything. When he learned he was leading the race, pain suddenly became less important, his mindset shifted, and he began pushing at a level he hadn’t known was there. Ryan breaks down the practical pieces that helped make that breakthrough possible, including gradually shifting his sleep schedule before race day, training his gut to handle huge amounts of fuel, strategically using caffeine, keeping aid stations efficient, and giving his pacers permission to push him hard. He also explains why his training has evolved from 80 to 100-mile weeks toward a more sustainable 40 to 60 miles most weeks, because he wants running to support his life rather than consume it. The conversation goes beyond racing into how years of failing, adapting, and slowly improving have shaped Ryan as an entrepreneur and taught him to value discipline over instant success. Ultimately, it’s a conversation about the intriguing possibility that the limits we think we’ve discovered may simply be the limits we’ve experienced so far. LINKS Raverunner Bags EPISODE SPONSORS Tifosi Optics - CLARITY ON THE TRAIL: Post your Golden Nugget of wisdom that helps you recover after a huge effort on Instagram, tag @TifosiOptics, @TrailRunnerNation, and use the hashtag #ClarityOnTheTrail. OR try texting us (within the USA) with your tip: 916-235-3928. If we use yours on a weekly episode, you get a pair of the new Sanctum SL glasses! ALTRA: With the classic Altra Fit, you set the pace. Altra running shoes are designed with room for your toes so they can actually spread out - for a natural fit. This gives you comfort, balance, and strength on and off the trail. Better balance and stability for our toes mean more comfort – on mile 5, 50, or 100. Learn more about Altra Fit. Feel the Altra Difference and use code TRN10 for 10% off your first order at checkout at altrarunning.com/TRN. Stay Out There with Altra. RunMotion Coach: Whether you’re training for your first trail race or chasing a new ultra PR, RunMotion Coach creates a personalized training plan that adapts to your schedule, fitness, and progress. Built by experienced coaches and powered by intelligent coaching technology, it helps you train smarter, stay consistent, and arrive at the starting line ready for your next adventure. Timestamps 00:00 – Finding Another Gear After nine years of ultrarunning, Ryan explains what happened at mile 88 of the Summit 200 when he learned he was suddenly leading the race and his perception of pain changed. 06:20 – How Pacers Changed the Race Ryan explains how he deliberately gave his pacers permission to push him hard and even convince him that second place was closing in when the gap was actually growing. 14:30 – Sleep and Fueling for 200 Miles Ryan shares how he gradually shifted his wake-up time before the race, trained his gut for heavy fueling, and used nutrition to avoid the bonk that often changes an ultra. 26:50 – Saving Caffeine for When It Matters Ryan explains why he reduces caffeine before a 200 and holds it back until the second night, turning it into both a physiological boost and something to look forward to. 30:00 – From Losing Weight to Loving the Process Ryan traces his journey from a kid struggling with his weight to a 20-year-old Moab 240 finisher, and eventually to someone who sees endurance as training for the rest of life. 35:00 – What Ultrarunning Teaches About Success The conversation connects running and entrepreneurship, exploring why solving problems, failing repeatedly, and earning progress can build something more durable than quick success. 49:10 – How Much Training Is Really Enough? Ryan explains why he no longer believes huge mileage is automatically better, how he can prepare for 200-mile races on roughly 40 to 60 miles most weeks, and why keeping running enjoyable matters. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
- 1 weeks ago56 min
You Don't Need a Bib to Be a Runner | EP 800
For much of her career, Ellie Greenwood measured herself against the best runners in the world, but her relationship with running has evolved toward something less measurable and, in some ways, more meaningful. She talks with Don and Scott about why racing can gradually shift from exciting to stressful, and why stepping away from competition doesn't mean stepping away from being a serious runner. The conversation explores how personal projects, peak bagging, FKTs, mileage or vertical challenges, and even running every street in your hometown can provide the same motivation that once came from a race on the calendar. Ellie also tackles an important question for aging athletes: what happens when working harder no longer produces the performances it once did, and can changing the goal help preserve our love of running? Along the way, they share adventure ideas ranging from Rim-to-Rim-to-Rim and running a favorite race course unofficially to travel running and some wonderfully ridiculous challenges involving ironing boards and whole chickens. Ultimately, Ellie makes the case that a bib is only one way to create purpose, and the best running goal may simply be the one that keeps you curious, moving, and excited about what's around the next corner. Hire Ellie as a coach at SharmanUltra EPISODE SPONSORS Tifosi Optics - CLARITY ON THE TRAIL: Post your Golden Nugget of wisdom that helps you recover after a huge effort on Instagram, tag @TifosiOptics, @TrailRunnerNation, and use the hashtag #ClarityOnTheTrail. OR try texting us (within the USA) with your tip: 916-235-3928. If we use yours on a weekly episode, you get a pair of the new Sanctum SL glasses! Stone Creek Coffee: Start every adventure with One More Mile, our limited edition coffee created by Stone Creek Coffee and Trail Runner Nation for runners who believe the journey is as meaningful as the finish line. Fuel your next early morning, long run, or post-run conversation, and save 20% with code ONEMOREMILE20. Every cup is an invitation to be part of a community that goes farther together. Timestamps 01:05 | From Racing to Adventure Ellie explains how one of the sport's most accomplished competitors began finding fulfillment in running experiences that have nothing to do with racing. 07:15 | Does Adventure Need Competition? The group considers how personal challenges can provide difficulty and purpose without turning every run into another contest. 11:00 | Training Without a Race on the Calendar Ellie shares how she coaches runners toward adventure, fitness, skills, and personal goals even when there's no finish line waiting for them. 22:40 | Are You Still a Trail Runner Without a Bib? Scott raises the identity question at the heart of the episode, and Ellie explains why racing should never define who gets to call themselves a trail runner. 27:29 | How Long Are Our Best Running Years? A discussion of the "Sawchuk Seven" leads to aging, longevity, smart training, burnout, and what happens when improvement becomes harder to find. 37:03 | Adventure Ideas You Can Actually Try From running every street in your town to exploring unfamiliar trails, Ellie, Don, and Scott start building a menu of adventures that don't require an entry fee. 42:34 | Rim-to-Rim, Foil Buckles and Running the World The conversation expands into Grand Canyon crossings, unofficial Western States adventures, delightfully strange challenges, and using running as a way to experience new places. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
- 2 weeks ago1h 12m
The Secret Every Happy Trail Runner Knows | EP 799
Matt Lambert has become one of the quiet legends of the Auburn trail community, not because of race results, but because of the joy, generosity, and gratitude he brings to every run. Although he's a seven-time Western States finisher, Matt rarely talks about racing. Instead, he shares how growing up on the Western States Trail taught him that running is about adventure, friendship, and discovering the "pharmacy in your head," where movement naturally brings peace, perspective, and emotional healing. The conversation explores how our relationship with the trail evolves over time, why Matt intentionally stepped away from racing before it stopped bringing him joy, and how balancing running with other activities has allowed him to stay healthy for decades. Along the way, Don, Scott, and Matt reflect on why trail running creates deeper friendships than almost any other activity and how time on the trail often provides clarity that's difficult to find anywhere else. It's an inspiring reminder that the greatest reward isn't another buckle. It's becoming the kind of person who still can't wait to head into the woods after forty years. EPISODE SPONSORS Tifosi Optics - CLARITY ON THE TRAIL: Post your Golden Nugget of wisdom that helps you recover after a huge effort on Instagram, tag @TifosiOptics, @TrailRunnerNation, and use the hashtag #ClarityOnTheTrail. OR try texting us (within the USA) with your tip: 916-235-3928. If we use yours on a weekly episode, you get a pair of the new Sanctum SL glasses! ALTRA: With the classic Altra Fit, you set the pace. Altra running shoes are designed with room for your toes so they can actually spread out - for a natural fit. This gives you comfort, balance, and strength on and off the trail. Better balance and stability for our toes mean more comfort – on mile 5, 50, or 100. Learn more about Altra Fit. Feel the Altra Difference and use code TRN10 for 10% off your first order at checkout at altrarunning.com/TRN. Stay Out There with Altra. RunMotion Coach: Whether you’re training for your first trail race or chasing a new ultra PR, RunMotion Coach creates a personalized training plan that adapts to your schedule, fitness, and progress. Built by experienced coaches and powered by intelligent coaching technology, it helps you train smarter, stay consistent, and arrive at the starting line ready for your next adventure. Timestamps 00:00 | Why Matt Lambert Inspires So Many Runners Scott introduces "Lamb Chops," whose love for the trail has made him one of Auburn's most beloved ambassadors despite rarely talking about his impressive race resume. 09:30 | Adventure, Friendship, and Growing Up on the Trails Matt shares how exploring the Auburn canyons as a kid and meeting influential mentors shaped his lifelong love of trail running. 20:40 | The "Pharmacy in Your Head" Matt explains why running became his healthiest source of joy and why nature has always been his most powerful medicine. 30:00 | The Trail as a Place of Healing The conversation turns to mental health, finding perspective, and why a run has always been Matt's path back from life's hardest moments. 41:15 | Why Longevity Beats Mileage Drawing from decades as chiropractors, Matt and Don discuss avoiding overtraining, embracing cross training, and staying healthy enough to enjoy the trails for life. 50:00 | Knowing When to Let Racing Go Matt reflects on finishing Western States seven times, recognizing when the suffering outweighed the joy, and redefining his relationship with running. 1:03:00 | What Really Matters After Decades on the Trail Scott shares how Matt influenced his own evolution as a runner, leading to a heartfelt conversation about purpose, perspective, and loving the trail long after racing fades. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
- 3 weeks ago1h 11m
You're Probably Carrying Water the Wrong Way | EP 798
Hydration can make or break a long run, but there isn't a universal formula that works for everyone. Kramer Ammons shares how he tests everything from sweat rate and hydration timing to where runners carry their water, explaining why the most efficient solution isn't always the most obvious. The conversation explores handheld bottles, hydration belts, vests, bladders, and why convenience often matters just as much as laboratory efficiency. Don and Scott add decades of racing experience, emphasizing that successful runners solve problems early instead of waiting until dehydration, stomach issues, or fatigue force them to slow down. The discussion also covers pre-hydration, electrolytes, carb drinks, aid station strategy, and how listening to your body is often more valuable than blindly following generic hydration guidelines. The biggest takeaway is that great hydration isn't about copying someone else's plan. It's about experimenting until you discover what consistently works for you. Links: Kramer's "how to carry water" video Kramer's company 55Miles EPISODE SPONSORS Tifosi Optics - CLARITY ON THE TRAIL: Post your Golden Nugget of wisdom that helps you recover after a huge effort on Instagram, tag @TifosiOptics, @TrailRunnerNation, and use the hashtag #ClarityOnTheTrail. OR try texting us (within the USA) with your tip: 916-235-3928. If we use yours on a weekly episode, you get a pair of the new Sanctum SL glasses! Stone Creek Coffee: Start every adventure with One More Mile, our limited edition coffee created by Stone Creek Coffee and Trail Runner Nation for runners who believe the journey is as meaningful as the finish line. Fuel your next early morning, long run, or post-run conversation, and save 20% with code ONEMOREMILE20. Every cup is an invitation to be part of a community that goes farther together. RunMotion Coach: Whether you’re training for your first trail race or chasing a new ultra PR, RunMotion Coach creates a personalized training plan that adapts to your schedule, fitness, and progress. Built by experienced coaches and powered by intelligent coaching technology, it helps you train smarter, stay consistent, and arrive at the starting line ready for your next adventure. Timestamps 00:00 | Why Hydration Is So Complicated Hydration seems simple until heat, sweat rate, pace, nutrition, and aid stations all start influencing the equation. 04:30 | The Best Way to Carry Water Kramer explains the research behind handheld bottles, hydration belts, vests, and why carrying weight near your center of mass can improve efficiency. 12:30 | Find Your Personal Sweat Rate Learn a simple sweat rate test and why copying someone else's hydration plan rarely works. 18:00 | Pre-Hydration Before You Start The conversation covers electrolytes, hydration loading, coffee, and preparing before the first mile instead of trying to catch up later. 24:30 | Choosing the Right Hydration System The pros and cons of handheld bottles, running belts, front flasks, hydration bladders, and when each option makes the most sense. 45:30 | Water, Electrolytes, and Carbs The hosts discuss balancing plain water with sports drinks, avoiding stomach issues, and fueling longer races more effectively. 49:00 | The Best Runners Solve Problems Early One of the episode's biggest lessons: recognize small problems before they become race-ending mistakes, and leave a little in reserve so you can finish strong. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
- Sep 4, 20261h 14m
Aging As An Athlete - The Best Miles Aren’t Always the Fastest | EP 797
Krissy Moehl, Kathleen Egan, and Jenny Jurek, affectionately known as the Mullet Train, share the story behind their goal of completing 1,000 trail miles together, including the Arizona Trail, High Lonesome 100, and Crazy Mountain 100. What started as an annual fastpacking adventure evolved into something much bigger: an intentional way to preserve friendship, challenge themselves, and keep adventure central as they get older. They talk candidly about learning each other's rhythms, figuring out how far their particular “train” can realistically travel each day, and discovering that a successful adventure doesn't always mean sticking stubbornly to the original plan. The conversation also gets wonderfully practical, covering ultralight gear, water, food, trail magic, trail names, cowboy camping, and the different “superpowers” each woman brings to the group. One of the most interesting shifts comes from Krissy, who spent decades racing at the highest level but now finds herself wanting to stop, take her shoes off at lunch, and actually absorb the places she once would have raced through. Underneath it all is a compelling message for aging athletes: don't wait for adventure to happen, put it on the calendar, find people who make you want to show up, and go collect some stories while your body still lets you. LINKS Jenny and Scott Jurek's book, North - Finding My Way While Running the Appalachian Trail Krissy's coaching and races EPISODE SPONSORS Tifosi Optics - CLARITY ON THE TRAIL: Post your Golden Nugget of wisdom that helps you recover after a huge effort on Instagram, tag @TifosiOptics, @TrailRunnerNation, and use the hashtag #ClarityOnTheTrail. OR try texting us (within the USA) with your tip: 916-235-3928. If we use yours on a weekly episode, you get a pair of the new Sanctum SL glasses! ALTRA: With the classic Altra Fit, you set the pace. Altra running shoes are designed with room for your toes so they can actually spread out - for a natural fit. This gives you comfort, balance, and strength on and off the trail. Better balance and stability for our toes mean more comfort – on mile 5, 50, or 100. Learn more about Altra Fit. Feel the Altra Difference and use code TRN10 for 10% off your first order at checkout at altrarunning.com/TRN. Stay Out There with Altra. RunMotion Coach: Whether you’re training for your first trail race or chasing a new ultra PR, RunMotion Coach creates a personalized training plan that adapts to your schedule, fitness, and progress. Built by experienced coaches and powered by intelligent coaching technology, it helps you train smarter, stay consistent, and arrive at the starting line ready for your next adventure. Timestamps 00:24 – The 1,000-Mile Idea Krissy, Kathleen, and Jenny introduce their goal of covering 1,000 trail miles together and explain how an annual adventure gradually became something much bigger. 05:35 – Why They Needed This Adventure Jenny explains how life, motherhood, and time away from ultrarunning left her craving an adventure, and a proposed section hike eventually grew into tackling the Arizona Trail. 14:28 – Why This, Why Now? The women discuss why these adventures feel particularly meaningful at this stage of their lives and why intentionally carving out time together matters. 20:19 – Welcome Aboard the Mullet Train Jenny explains the wonderfully ridiculous origin of their team name, while the women identify the different “superpowers” each brings to the trail. 28:45 – It Took 400 Miles to Become a Team Kathleen explains how ambitious mileage goals gradually gave way to understanding their natural pace and how hundreds of miles together taught them to read and support one another. 35:00 – From Racing Through It to Taking It In Krissy reflects on one of her biggest changes as an athlete: after years of elite racing, she no longer wants to rush through beautiful places and would rather stop, soak her shirt in the creek, and enjoy where she is.
- Aug 28, 20261h 11m
Three Elite Coaches. Six Impossible Decisions | EP 796
Coaching advice almost always starts with, “It depends.” In this special Ask the Coaches episode, Don and Scott take away that safety net by forcing Ian Sharman, Hal Koerner, and Ellie Greenwood to make definitive choices on some of trail running’s biggest debates. Is it better to be undertrained or overtrained? Should you trust data or your instincts? Would you add mileage or strength training? Can motivation be taught? Along the way, the coaches reveal not only their philosophies, but also the surprising amount of agreement behind them. Beneath the conversation emerges a consistent message: sustainable training, learning to listen to your body, and developing good judgment matter far more than chasing perfect numbers. It’s entertaining, occasionally chaotic, and full of coaching wisdom every trail runner can apply. LINKS - Sharman Ultra Coaching The Art of Ultrarunning book, by Ian Hal Koerners's Field Guide to Ultrarunning Hal's races: Siskiyou Out Back & Lithia Loop - Rogue Valley Runners Store Knee Knacker 30-mile Forerunners North Shore store that Ellie works part time EPISODE SPONSORS Tifosi Optics - CLARITY ON THE TRAIL: Post your Golden Nugget of wisdom that helps you recover after a huge effort on Instagram, tag @TifosiOptics, @TrailRunnerNation, and use the hashtag #ClarityOnTheTrail. OR try texting us (within the USA) with your tip: 916-235-3928. If we use yours on a weekly episode, you get a pair of the new Sanctum SL glasses! ALTRA: With the classic Altra Fit, you set the pace. Altra running shoes are designed with room for your toes so they can actually spread out - for a natural fit. This gives you comfort, balance, and strength on and off the trail. Better balance and stability for our toes mean more comfort – on mile 5, 50, or 100. Learn more about Altra Fit. Feel the Altra Difference and use code TRN10 for 10% off your first order at checkout at altrarunning.com/TRN. Stay Out There with Altra. RunMotion Coach: Whether you’re training for your first trail race or chasing a new ultra PR, RunMotion Coach creates a personalized training plan that adapts to your schedule, fitness, and progress. Built by experienced coaches and powered by intelligent coaching technology, it helps you train smarter, stay consistent, and arrive at the starting line ready for your next adventure. Instant Hydration: Timestamps 00:00 | The Rules: No “It Depends” The coaches are forced to choose between two coaching philosophies before explaining their reasoning. 04:00 | Training Smarter vs. Training Harder Should runners prioritize perfect execution or simply never miss a workout? The coaches debate consistency, intensity, and long-term improvement. 21:00 | Undertrained or Overtrained? The panel discusses why arriving healthy, rested, and mentally excited may be more valuable than squeezing in one more week of training. 29:00 | Mileage or Strength Training? With limited training time, the coaches debate whether extra running or extra strength work produces the biggest return. 44:00 | Trust the Data or Trust Yourself? Heart rate, recovery scores, wearables, and intuition collide as the coaches explain why learning effort by feel remains one of the most valuable skills in ultrarunning. 56:00 | What Should You Do When You Want to Quit? The coaches tackle one of the hardest race-day scenarios: stop, regroup, and reassess, or keep moving forward no matter how slowly. 1:11:00 | Final Thoughts (and One Last “It Depends”) The episode wraps with laughs,
- Aug 21, 20261h 0m
Sophie Grant: The Adventure That Changed Everything | EP 795
Sophie Grant had reached a point where even the hardest ultramarathons no longer carried the uncertainty they once did, and after years of infertility and IVF, she realized she had also lost some of her joy in running and trust in her own body. The Via Alpina changed that, taking her roughly 2,000 kilometers across the Alps and forcing her to approach each day without knowing exactly what the next one would bring. She and photographer Zoe Salt talk about the physical and logistical realities of nearly a month on the trail, including relentless fueling, strength training, bad patches, storms, forest fires, and the value of an exceptional crew. Sophie shares practical lessons endurance athletes can use immediately, including her belief that “a bad moment does not make a bad day,” the importance of eating before assuming something has gone seriously wrong, and learning to distinguish between not wanting to continue and truly being unable to continue. The deeper story is about something bigger than an FKT: Sophie describes how this adventure helped her appreciate what her body could do after spending years focused on something it couldn't. By the end, her message is wonderfully simple: try something new, LINKS: Sophie Grant's coaching Zoe Salt photography EPISODE SPONSORS Tifosi Optics - CLARITY ON THE TRAIL: Post your Golden Nugget of wisdom that helps you recover after a huge effort on Instagram, tag @TifosiOptics, @TrailRunnerNation, and use the hashtag #ClarityOnTheTrail. OR try texting us (within the USA) with your tip: 916-235-3928. If we use yours on a weekly episode, you get a pair of the new Sanctum SL glasses! ALTRA: With the classic Altra Fit, you set the pace. Altra running shoes are designed with room for your toes so they can actually spread out - for a natural fit. This gives you comfort, balance, and strength on and off the trail. Better balance and stability for our toes mean more comfort – on mile 5, 50, or 100. Learn more about Altra Fit. Feel the Altra Difference and use code TRN10 for 10% off your first order at checkout at altrarunning.com/TRN. Stay Out There with Altra. RunMotion Coach: Whether you’re training for your first trail race or chasing a new ultra PR, RunMotion Coach creates a personalized training plan that adapts to your schedule, fitness, and progress. Built by experienced coaches and powered by intelligent coaching technology, it helps you train smarter, stay consistent, and arrive at the starting line ready for your next adventure. Timestamps 00:00 – The Via Alpina and an Enormous New Challenge Sophie and Zoe introduce the roughly 2,000-kilometer route across eight Alpine countries and explain why attempting it was so different from Sophie's previous racing. 05:14 – Why Sophie Needed Something Different After years of racing at a high level, Sophie realized she was operating on autopilot and needed a challenge that could bring uncertainty, learning, and joy back into running. 12:12 – Infertility, Running and Her Relationship With Her Body Sophie opens up about infertility, IVF, and how the experience left her angry and disconnected from her body before the Via Alpina helped change that relationship. 20:00 – What 29 Days Really Looked Like Zoe describes watching Sophie get up and do the work day after day, while Sophie shares the low moments, frustration, pain, and perspective that kept her moving. 25:12 – How Do You Fuel for a Month? Sophie breaks down the surprisingly broad menu that powered the effort and explains why years of practicing 80 to 90 grams of carbohydrate per hour made eating almost automatic. 28:41 – “A Bad Moment Does Not Make a Bad Day” Sophie explains how food, music, distraction, and experience help her escape negative headspaces, plus the crucial difference between can't continue and simply don't want to. 41:51 – When the Plan Falls Apart Storms, vehicle problems and forest fires force the team to adapt, leading to a broader conversation about trusting your support system and learning to build a different life when the original plan changes. 48:
- Aug 14, 20261h 6m
Sometimes You Have to Borrow Belief | EP 794
We often think of ultrarunning as an individual pursuit, but Eric Strand’s Western States story proves that the strongest performances are rarely solo efforts. After cracking a rib, falling multiple times, and watching his sub-30-hour goal slip away, Eric reached mile 78 convinced he wouldn’t make it. His pacers refused to believe that story, helping him stop negotiating with himself, stay focused on the mile he was in, and keep moving forward one step at a time. Along the way, the conversation explores what separates a great pacer from an average one, how trust and preparation begin long before race day, and why different moments require different kinds of encouragement. This episode is a reminder that sometimes the greatest gift another runner can give you is believing in you until you’re able to believe in yourself again. LINKS Video of Eric Finishing WS100 Eric's Race Report EPISODE SPONSORS Tifosi Optics - CLARITY ON THE TRAIL: Post your Golden Nugget of wisdom that helps you recover after a huge effort on Instagram, tag @TifosiOptics, @TrailRunnerNation, and use the hashtag #ClarityOnTheTrail. OR try texting us (within the USA) with your tip: 916-235-3928. If we use yours on a weekly episode, you get a pair of the new Sanctum SL glasses! Stone Creek Coffee: Start every adventure with One More Mile, our limited edition coffee created by Stone Creek Coffee and Trail Runner Nation for runners who believe the journey is as meaningful as the finish line. Fuel your next early morning, long run, or post-run conversation, and save 20% with code ONEMOREMILE20. Every cup is an invitation to be part of a community that goes farther together. Instant Hydration Timestamps 00:00 | When Belief Runs Out Eric introduces the moment at mile 78 when he thought his Western States dream was slipping away. 08:00 | Borrowing Someone Else’s Confidence Eric explains how his pacer shifted his mindset from making excuses to focusing on the mile directly ahead. 15:30 | What Makes a Great Pacer The conversation explores communication, trust, and why every runner needs something different during difficult moments. 30:00 | Managing Pain Without Giving Up Eric shares how his pacers helped him push through cracked ribs, multiple falls, and overwhelming fatigue without losing sight of the finish. 39:00 | Lessons for Every Pacer Practical advice on pacing strategy, communication, course knowledge, and common mistakes that can make or break a race. 48:00 | A Son’s Push to the Finish Eric reflects on the emotional role reversal of having his son pace him over the final miles and what that experience meant. 55:00 | Why No One Finishes Alone The discussion closes with a broader lesson about crew, volunteers, family, and the trail running community that makes extraordinary accomplishments possible. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
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